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New_Yorker


Preach the Gospel always, use words when necessary

Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Nov 26, 2010
Points: 219

Avoid the Most Common Damage & Wear done to Any Snowblower . . .
Original Message   Dec 10, 2011 10:37 am
Most Common Damage Done to any and all snowblowers is NOT preparing the engine and machine for the summer months.  The most necessary part of this is to prevent the unused engines one engine piston rings from rusting themself to the cylinder wall.  The solution is simple and easy if you posess the tools and the technical know how to change a spark plug.    Go to a local drugstore and buy a plastic syringe, tell them you need it to feed liquid medicine to a sick cat.  Then go home and remove the spark plug from the engine on your snowblower.  Fill the syringe with ordinary clean fresh motor oil, and empty it into the engine cylinder, then pull the starter cord a few times to distribute the oil on the cylinder walls and the piston rings, then  replace the spark plug.  Now Pull the cord slowly until it provides the maximum resistance, and then stop pulling.  This will effectively have closed all the engine valves and will keep the warm moist air of summer from getting into the engine cylinder.  This must be done every year once the threat of snow is gone.  April Fool's Day is a good day to remember if you've done such chores.

The other things are less important since they will not be so damaging, but drain all the gas out of the tank, the carburetor, and the lines.  Cover the machine with a plastic cover that allows air movement, like a piece of woven plastic or most housewraps, so long as yoy store the snowblower in a garage and out of the sun.  

Remember that snowblowers have no air filters so it is common for moisture-water to be injested during a snow storm.  For this reason I put the machine in the garage and run it until the gas runs out once I have shut off the fuel line.  My old snowblower required that I install an In-Line fuel shut-off valve because the $ 1100.00 bucks I paid wasn't sufficient for MTD to have included one when they built my Sears Craftsman Snowblower.  So if your engine has no fuel shut off, you too should install one yourself.    Oh, and always use gas that has sufficient fuel stabilizer in it, and always use fuel that is less thyan six months in the can even if it does have stabilizer in it.  Thenattempting to start the snowblower when you awake to the blizzard won't throw you into a state of panic.

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Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: Avoid the Most Common Damage & Wear done to Any Snowblower . . .
Reply #11   Dec 10, 2011 4:37 pm
I always thought the most common damage was bucket corrosion. Shame, because it's very easy to prevent.

Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Avoid the Most Common Damage & Wear done to Any Snowblower . . .
Reply #12   Dec 10, 2011 4:59 pm
I use a tie wrap to slip over the auger drive lever.  Easy on, easier off.   I know that many think it's a safety compromise and, to some extent it might be.  However, there are a number of other "stupid factors" that would come into play to make it an unsafe practice.   First and foremost, one should not have pets, children or people in the path of the machine.  One should also be aware that the path is known to be clear of obstructions whenever possible.  Keeping areas that will be cleared tidy will go a long way toward preventing the auger from ingesting undesired items.  

Before I bought the SS machine for my deck, I used to park the Simplicity at the bottom of the steps running full throttle with the auger engaged and held in position with the tie wrap.  I'd shovel snow from the deck, down the stairs right into the waiting bucket so that the blower could throw the snow away from the bottom of the stairs toward the lawn.   Worked great for years and I'm still here to tell the tale! 
royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: Avoid the Most Common Damage & Wear done to Any Snowblower . . .
Reply #13   Dec 10, 2011 6:44 pm
I have also set my 2 stage at the bottom of the step to the deck running wide open with the auger engaged. I used a snow scoop or blade to clean off my deck , feeding the snow to the auger. It has always worked well;

I always made sure that no child  person or pet  was around.   Maybe this was an unsafe practice,   I don't do that anymore since I purchased my single stage, It clears off the deck  very well.

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hirschallan


If it aint broke don't fix it !!


Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
Points: 327

Re: Avoid the Most Common Damage & Wear done to Any Snowblower . . .
Reply #14   Dec 10, 2011 7:57 pm
carlb wrote:
I made a little D Clip that is attached handlebars, after i press the lever for the auger i flip up the clip and it holds the auger engaged so i don't have to hold it down.  It then gives me a free hand to work the chute when necessary without having to stop.


Need to see pictures of it please !!!

sscotsman


Joined: Dec 3, 2009
Points: 56

Re: Avoid the Most Common Damage & Wear done to Any Snowblower . . .
Reply #15   Dec 10, 2011 10:41 pm
Can someone explain this to me?
im sure there is a good reason for this, but I dont understand it:

When you are running the snowblower normally (or any small gas engine, lawnmower, etc)
isnt there *always* oil on the cylinder wall?
thats how engines are lubricated right?

So what is the point of removing the spark plug and adding in this "extra" oil?
isnt there oil in there already? coating the cylinder wall?
the point of this procedure I do not understand..seems like there is oil in there already..
can someone explain?
thanks,
Scot
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Avoid the Most Common Damage & Wear done to Any Snowblower . . .
Reply #16   Dec 11, 2011 3:30 am
sscotsman wrote:
Can someone explain this to me?
im sure there is a good reason for this, but I dont understand it:

When you are running the snowblower normally (or any small gas engine, lawnmower, etc)
isnt there *always* oil on the cylinder wall?
thats how engines are lubricated right?

So what is the point of removing the spark plug and adding in this "extra" oil?
isnt there oil in there already? coating the cylinder wall?
the point of this procedure I do not understand..seems like there is oil in there already..
can someone explain?
thanks,
Scot

The oil is in the bottom of the engine.  The top of the cylinder doesn't have oil unless you have an issue with the rings leaking.  The idea is just to stop the top half from rusting since if you get corrosion on the walls and then run the engine you could scratch it.  Having the piston at TDC for storage means that the piston is covering the entire cylinder and protecting it.  It could be compared to a hydraulic cylinder.  When not in use you should retract it completely so the bare metal isn't exposed to the elements.
carlb


Joined: Nov 16, 2010
Points: 279

Re: Avoid the Most Common Damage & Wear done to Any Snowblower . . .
Reply #17   Dec 11, 2011 6:51 am
sscotsman wrote:
Can someone explain this to me?
im sure there is a good reason for this, but I dont understand it:

When you are running the snowblower normally (or any small gas engine, lawnmower, etc)
isnt there *always* oil on the cylinder wall?
thats how engines are lubricated right?

So what is the point of removing the spark plug and adding in this "extra" oil?
isnt there oil in there already? coating the cylinder wall?
the point of this procedure I do not understand..seems like there is oil in there already..
can someone explain?
thanks,
Scot

Scot,

The oil control rings are in the lower grove of the piston and are designed to scrape the oil off the cylinder wall and return it to the sump. The top two groves have the compression rings and they don't normally see any oil if the oil rings are doing there job.  Adding oil through the spark plug hole will coat the top of the piston and in turn get pushed into the compression ring groves when you pull the engine over a few times.  Stopping the engine at TDC on compression stroke will ensure that both the valves are closed preventing moisture or critters from entering through the intake or exhaust. 
carlb


Joined: Nov 16, 2010
Points: 279

Re: Avoid the Most Common Damage & Wear done to Any Snowblower . . .
Reply #18   Dec 11, 2011 8:41 am
hirschallan wrote:
Need to see pictures of it please !!!


It is just made out of 1/4" copper round stock
This message was modified Dec 11, 2011 by carlb
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Avoid the Most Common Damage & Wear done to Any Snowblower . . .
Reply #19   Dec 11, 2011 8:59 am
About oiling the cylinder......

How many participant do this for car, truck, tractor, generator, motorcycle engines that are either put into storage or unused for months/years on end? 

How many participants have taken apart an engine that they had put into long term storage?

How many participants who've actually opened up an engine that was stored reasonably well, without oil in the cylinder found the rings rusted to the cylinder?

The answers should give us some idea of how necessary/unnecessary this procedure really is.

Waaaaay to many people giving out dire warnings of essential maintenance that is really not required.   I have to wonder if these people even own basic tools to do mechanical work?
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Avoid the Most Common Damage & Wear done to Any Snowblower . . .
Reply #20   Dec 11, 2011 9:14 am
When someone has an imaginary snowblower it is not any more work for that  person. 
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