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New_Yorker


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Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Nov 26, 2010
Points: 219

Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Original Message   Nov 22, 2011 6:48 pm
I notice the Lowes and Home Depot stores have a line of new snow blower models for sale.  But who picks up, repairs or services and returns this 200-300 pound machine to you when it needs help ?  Home Depot and Lowe's don't have repair shops, sell parts, offer pick-up and return services etc.  So where should you buy that new MTD built Cub Cadet Top Consumer Rated Snowblower ?
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blumonster


Location: Wisc.
Joined: Oct 14, 2011
Points: 163

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #1   Nov 22, 2011 7:01 pm
New_Yorker wrote:
I notice the Lowes and Home Depot stores have a line of new snow blower models for sale.  But who picks up, repairs or services and returns this 200-300 pound machine to you when it needs help ?  Home Depot and Lowe's don't have repair shops, sell parts, offer pick-up and return services etc.  So where should you buy that new MTD built Cub Cadet Top Consumer Rated Snowblower ?


Farm and Fleet if you have them closeby.
New_Yorker


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Location: Long Island, NY
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Points: 219

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #2   Nov 22, 2011 7:16 pm
Not any near new york city that I can see.  I live 70miles  east of NYC.   Looking at the Cub Cadet with a 16" Diameter Auger, as well as a 16" Diameter Impeller, all the competition has are 12" so far.  This is for a relative, I own a HONDA HS 928TAS that they find too pricey.   Home Depot sells Cub Cadet, but has no parts, no service, no pick-up and return for manitenance, so I can't buy it from them.  These are friction disc drive machines, all need service regularly, only Honda has a hydrostatic transmission instead, that's why I bought one.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #3   Nov 22, 2011 7:19 pm
Isn't 70 mile east of NYC somewhere in Atlantic ocean?
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #4   Nov 22, 2011 7:29 pm
MN_Runner wrote:
Isn't 70 mile east of NYC somewhere in Atlantic ocean?

Would that make him a..... wait for it......




NEW YIKER...........?
Greg13


Joined: Nov 6, 2011
Points: 26

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #5   Nov 22, 2011 7:43 pm
Well since you are working by the process of elimination, you are finding where NOT to buy. Since SERVICE is important to you look towards dealers that offer full service. You may end up paying a little more purchase price, but you will have peace of mind on the service/parts end. There are deals to be found on good used machines, check Craigs's list and local news papers
New_Yorker


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Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Nov 26, 2010
Points: 219

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #6   Nov 22, 2011 9:48 pm
MN_Runner wrote:
Isn't 70 mile east of NYC somewhere in Atlantic ocean?

It is called, " LONG " island for a reason, there's another 50 miles before you run out of island going east.
New_Yorker


Preach the Gospel always, use words when necessary

Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Nov 26, 2010
Points: 219

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #7   Nov 22, 2011 9:53 pm
Greg13 wrote:
Well since you are working by the process of elimination, you are finding where NOT to buy. Since SERVICE is important to you look towards dealers that offer full service. You may end up paying a little more purchase price, but you will have peace of mind on the service/parts end. There are deals to be found on good used machines, check Craigs's list and local news papers


Service is important to everybody who buys a machine with a warranty, that can need repairs, parts, and service.  Since Lowe's & Home Depot have no ability to supply such necessary requirements I must rule them out.  The fact the machine weighs between 2-300 pounds means it won't fit in car, or most SUV's, and the places that will service such machines charge to pick up and deliver it, as well as service it.  Better to buy it from the people who can help you out with such thing, so when the machine inevitably kraps out, they know who you are.
blumonster


Location: Wisc.
Joined: Oct 14, 2011
Points: 163

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #8   Nov 22, 2011 10:00 pm
New_Yorker wrote:
Service is important to everybody who buys a machine with a warranty, that can need repairs, parts, and service.  Since Lowe's & Home Depot have no ability to supply such necessary requirements I must rule them out.  The fact the machine weighs between 2-300 pounds means it won't fit in car, or most SUV's, and the places that will service such machines charge to pick up and deliver it, as well as service it.  Better to buy it from the people who can help you out with such thing, so when the machine inevitably kraps out, they know who you are.



I agree.That is why I said Farm and Fleet.Too bad there is not one where you live.They say they service what they sell and they sell Cub Cadet,Poulan Pro,Toro and Honda snow blowers.

I was about to buy their Poulan Pro single stage snow blower when it was on sale for $299.99.

http://www.farmandfleet.com/catalog/find.aspx?t=snow+blower&submit.x=0&submit.y=0

Sometimes Home Depot accepts returns even if it is one year after purchase if the thing fails.

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MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #9   Nov 22, 2011 10:41 pm
New_Yorker wrote:
It is called, " LONG " island for a reason, there's another 50 miles before you run out of island going east.


I got it. It is part of the "SAT" word.
CharlesW


Joined: Jan 9, 2011
Points: 76

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #10   Nov 22, 2011 10:56 pm
For some reason, I can't access the Cub Cadet web-site.

Chances are, they would have a dealer locator, but maybe not.

The web-site not reponding is somewhat of a red flag to me. Maybe they don't want to have any conversations and want you to go to Home Depot to buy their equipment.

They do list a customer service number and a call to them might help you find a dealer near you. That is if they answer the phone.

Anyway, here's the number I found. 1.800.965.4282

Good luck.

aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #11   Nov 22, 2011 11:37 pm
I bought my snowblower from a dealer that's been around for a long time.  They carry all the better brands, Ariens, Simplicity, Honda, Snapper, Toro, Yamaha, Stihl, Tanaka, and Echo.  The sales people are knowledgeable and not pushy.  They're also not partial to any particular brand either, very straight forward.  The dealer is actually very high volume since they sell and ship all across the US so the prices can be negotiable.

I'm not into buying big ticket items from Lowes or Home Depot, although their prices are alluring.  I also make effort to support my local businesses.
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MrNuke


Joined: Oct 28, 2011
Points: 16

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #12   Nov 23, 2011 12:37 am
Cub Cadet's website has a dealer locator that allows you to search for independent dealers.  Using the tool, there appear to be several on Long Island. 
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #13   Nov 23, 2011 5:43 am
Have you considered using a local small engine repair shop? Most of these guys are very familiar with all makes of OPE and can usually be found within a short distance of your home. Most repairs or maintenance are generic in nature and a good mechanic can typically work on and repair most, if not all, types of equipment. Many maintenance issues and minor repairs can usually be accomplished by most folks with moderate mechanical abilities if they're capable and willing to give it shot. If none of these options are considered viable, then I would also recommend going the dealer route and paying a bit more for the peace of mind that comes with the support a dealership can provide.

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #14   Nov 23, 2011 6:30 am
    As explained to me by management at HD and Lowes, both HD and Lowes make arrangements with dealers near their stores to do their service and warrantee repairs.  If there are no compitent dealers or the dealers are far away then that's the breaks.  For example one close by HD has service and warrantee work done by the best dealer in the area.  That dealer is about 3 miles from that HD.  Another close by HD has the same arrangement with a different dealer.  Lowes does the same thing.  In most cases if the brand is not carried by the dealer the dealer will still do the repairs as an authorized dealer would.  I think it was a nearby Lowes that carried a few brands.  All but Deere were done by a close dealer.  Deere machines were done by a Deere dealer about 15 miles awar. 

   If buying something from HD or Lowes it's useful to ask just what their repair arrangement is and what dealer woll do the work. 

   Also explained to me was: if there is some simple, brain dead repair like tightening a bolt then a store employee may do the work but they are not trained and don't work on machines.   

   The machines arrive at these stores mostly complete requiring only very simple assembly, some arrive completely assembled.  When one is sold with a setup problem from the factory or a defect, HD or Lowes get blamed.  They're no setup to do QC on snowblowers, washers, refrigerators or much else they sell.

   Some stores have better arrangements with suppliers than other stores or implement that arrangement differently.  For example Ariens and HD have an arrangement where the machine goes to the customers house and a service rep from the repair dealership is supposed to be there for delivery, check the setup and start the machine.  Some HD make sure that's done and others don't.     

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #15   Nov 23, 2011 9:09 am
That's the way it works around here too Trouts.

Same goes for just about all the big box stores that sell all types of stuff.  For instance, Future Shop have and arrangement with a couple local electronics repair shop.  The Brick, Leons etc. have arrangements with local appliance repair shops.  It's a better system for everyone.  Usually the local repair facilities have experienced people doing the work.  The box stores save on floor space, personnel and other associated costs by farming the work out. 

I do all of my own OPE repair works as, I'm sure you also do.  What I've found is that a little preventative maintenance goes a looooooong way toward equipment reliability and saving money on repairs.
New_Yorker


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Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Nov 26, 2010
Points: 219

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #16   Nov 23, 2011 12:30 pm
MrNuke wrote:
Cub Cadet's website has a dealer locator that allows you to search for independent dealers.  Using the tool, there appear to be several on Long Island. 


They carry a 'Cub Cadet' machine, not all, and not the one I have been reading about in Consumer Reports with a 16" auger and 16" impeller (fan).

MTD makes them, so there should be a place that sells them and services.  I do the on line searches BEFORE I ask such a question here.   Farm & Fleet suggested would be a long commute for anyone like me, living in New York State.   Why anyone would buy such a producta from a Home Depot Box Store always makes me wonder. They have  no service, no parts, no repairs, nobody who knows anything about the machine, and God help you if they have the minimum wage inept store clerk assemble it for you.  It's like the worst of all worlds to buy a snowblower from.  Yet the people do buy from them, and what's even scarier, these people also can, 'Vote'.  Imagine they are as wise in choosing who to vote for; like I said, Scary!

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sscotsman


Joined: Dec 3, 2009
Points: 56

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #17   Nov 23, 2011 3:06 pm
My opinion, plug your zip code in here:

http://apache.ariens.com/cgibin/pnrg0140a

and buy a snowblower there..
Not only will get a quality machine that will last for several decades, you will also get it professionally assembled by people who know that they are doing,
and you will have a dealer for service and repairs..much better than a big-box store!

I wouldnt buy a Cub Cadet..MTD's have much worse repair and reliability records than other brands.
The "top three" names in snowblowers are Ariens, Toro and Honda..personally I wouldn't consider anything but those three.

and Consumer Reports is useless..because they only rate and compare the features of NEW machines..
they say nothing about long term reliability..
and comparing brand-new machines is pointless..
a brand new Kia looks about as good as a brand new Honda Civic..
10 years later, they are worlds apart..The Honda is not even half way through its life, while the Kia is dead..

Scot
New_Yorker


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Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Nov 26, 2010
Points: 219

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #18   Nov 23, 2011 4:55 pm
sscotsman wrote:
My opinion, plug your zip code in here:

http://apache.ariens.com/cgibin/pnrg0140a

and buy a snowblower there..
Not only will get a quality machine that will last for several decades, you will also get it professionally assembled by people who know that they are doing,
and you will have a dealer for service and repairs..much better than a big-box store!

I wouldnt buy a Cub Cadet..MTD's have much worse repair and reliability records than other brands.
The "top three" names in snowblowers are Ariens, Toro and Honda..personally I wouldn't consider anything but those three.

and Consumer Reports is useless..because they only rate and compare the features of NEW machines..
they say nothing about long term reliability..
and comparing brand-new machines is pointless..
a brand new Kia looks about as good as a brand new Honda Civic..
10 years later, they are worlds apart..The Honda is not even half way through its life, while the Kia is dead..

Scot

Plugging in, as you say, my Zip Code sends me to Home Depot.  Sorry, not a credible dealer for snowblowers of any kind.
MrNuke


Joined: Oct 28, 2011
Points: 16

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #19   Nov 23, 2011 4:55 pm
New_Yorker wrote:
They carry a 'Cub Cadet' machine, not all, and not the one I have been reading about in Consumer Reports with a 16" auger and 16" impeller (fan).

MTD makes them, so there should be a place that sells them and services.  I do the on line searches BEFORE I ask such a question here.   Farm & Fleet suggested would be a long commute for anyone like me, living in New York State.   Why anyone would buy such a producta from a Home Depot Box Store always makes me wonder. They have  no service, no parts, no repairs, nobody who knows anything about the machine, and God help you if they have the minimum wage inept store clerk assemble it for you.  It's like the worst of all worlds to buy a snowblower from.  Yet the people do buy from them, and what's even scarier, these people also can, 'Vote'.  Imagine they are as wise in choosing who to vote for; like I said, Scary!


Easy there... Just trying to help...  What you had posted made no indication of  searching local dealers hence multiple people telling you to check their website.  That said, I do agree with Scot's comments on quality and maybe the lack thereof with MTD/ the problems with consumer reports and AA335's list of some of the better brands like Ariens, Simplicity, Honda, and Toro.  As someone who just went through a similar process as you, I'd advice reconsidering on cub cadet.   Looking at Toro dealers about 50 miles east of NYC gives someone like this.  http://www.carlsequipment.com/
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sscotsman


Joined: Dec 3, 2009
Points: 56

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #20   Nov 23, 2011 5:44 pm
New_Yorker wrote:
Plugging in, as you say, my Zip Code sends me to Home Depot.  Sorry, not a credible dealer for snowblowers of any kind.

*only* Home Depot?
wow..thats surprising..
my zip code, 14624, brings up three independant dealers, and NO Home depots..
even though we have 5 home depots in the immediate area that all carry Ariens snowblowers..
I just assumed that dealer search did not include Home Depot at all..sorry about that!

Im surprised there arent any closer Ariens dealers, especially being Long Island..
but I guess you guys dont get nearly the amount of snow we do, so dealers would be fewer and farther between..

If you change the distance, (25 miles, 50 miles, 100 miles etc)
How far is your closest Ariens dealer? not counting Home Depot?

(you could also try posting your zip code here! ;) would help people find dealers for you..not just Ariens..)

Scot
bus708


Location: Maryland
Joined: Jul 24, 2010
Points: 321

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #21   Nov 23, 2011 6:36 pm
New_Yorker wrote:
I notice the Lowes and Home Depot stores have a line of new snow blower models for sale.  But who picks up, repairs or services and returns this 200-300 pound machine to you when it needs help ?  Home Depot and Lowe's don't have repair shops, sell parts, offer pick-up and return services etc.  So where should you buy that new MTD built Cub Cadet Top Consumer Rated Snowblower ?
It is up yo you realy. You can get a good deal at lows and home depot. You get a more personal exspierence with a small shop, they are more likley to service it too. Personaly i went with Home depot. I got 20% off on a $1200 machine 15 years ago. Today you can do the same. Ariens list dealers close to you. Some will match a Home Depot price to get your business. What ever you do- Dont buy a machine already assembled from Lowes or Home Depot. They do not assemble them right. Do it yourself.
royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #22   Nov 24, 2011 6:24 pm
I believe it is best to buy your snowblower at a dealership where they have parts and service.   Sears does have parts and service , but their servicemen are not specialists in snowblowers  , they service everything that Sears sells .  We have a large Husqvarna , Ariens , Bobcat  and  MTD dealership here that sells tractors,lawn mowers , chainsaws, snowblowers and other equipment. They have a well stocked parts departmrnt and a year round service department with 4 full time technicians. It is a pleasure to go there.. They are also an authorized Briggs ans Stratton dealer.
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Santaclause


Location: northern NY
Joined: Jan 18, 2009
Points: 48

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #23   Nov 25, 2011 2:53 am
Same here I bought my cub cadet 930 from a local farm equiptment dealership and there is another dealer not that far away from them that is a full line MTD distibutor of parts and has service I mostly do everything myself but sometimes if under warranty I dont touch it and I had a bad experience buying a blower from Lowes great price but nothing but problems and finaly returned and went with the cub simply for because the dealer for parts was alot closer than a deere dealer although if I had it do again I would either go simplicity pro or toro next time the cub has been a good machine so far time will tell I keep do alot of preventitive maint on my OPE to keep it or try and keep it in best possible running condition I can....
New_Yorker


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Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Nov 26, 2010
Points: 219

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #24   Nov 25, 2011 12:32 pm
MrNuke wrote:
Easy there... Just trying to help...  What you had posted made no indication of  searching local dealers hence multiple people telling you to check their website.  That said, I do agree with Scot's comments on quality and maybe the lack thereof with MTD/ the problems with consumer reports and AA335's list of some of the better brands like Ariens, Simplicity, Honda, and Toro.  As someone who just went through a similar process as you, I'd advice reconsidering on cub cadet.   Looking at Toro dealers about 50 miles east of NYC gives someone like this.  http://www.carlsequipment.com/


Carl's Equipment is an excellent place to buy such machines.  I own a Little Wonder 9 HP blower I purchased from Carls' almost a dozen years ago.  Unlike the Home Depot & Lowe's stores about 3/4 mile east of Carls' I can get parts, service and people who know something about the machines to talk to, but they don't sell the machine made by MTD and sold as a Cub Cadet.   Toro is not the machine for me, or Carl's would be a perfect place to buy from.

snowmachine


Location: Washington State
Joined: Nov 12, 2008
Points: 268

Re: Where should you buy your Snowblower ?
Reply #25   Nov 26, 2011 8:21 pm
I work on all of my stuff and parts can be ordered online so not really an issue for me. I will say though that I have a few years left on my Craftsman warranty in case I have a catastrophic failure. So far it looks like I should have passed on the extended 5 year warranty. It was relatively cheap though.
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