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Acerone


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
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Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Original Message   Sep 11, 2009 6:17 pm
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M00seUK


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Points: 295

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #56   Sep 15, 2009 5:00 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello M00seUK:

Thanks for the clarification.  I didn't realize that when vacuum makers pay female models/vacuum users to pose with their vacuum products for photo shoots/product ads that they have other reasons in mind besides promoting the sales of their products.  I always thought this was the common denominator by all brand makers who choose femme fatales to pose with their products.  It surely must work.  So many do and have been doing so in the industry for years!

I still vote for the B&D lady, even after viewing the photo gallery for Miss IFA.  You get that way when you are old.  Set in your ways and likes and dislikes.  It's habit forming.

Carmine D. 


Oh, no contest, I'd much prefer the natural brunette over Miss IFA who looks like she's sporting a red wig.

To mention that Dyson's first television commercial, for the DC01, featured a relatively attractive lady in her mid to late 30s, but rather than simply being the 'eye candy', she was there to explain, to camera, the Dyson bagless benefits in a 'straight-up' manner. The script for said advert was written in-house at Dyson after they despised of creative suggestions puts across from ad agencies. The advert was widely acknowledged for sky rocketing the sales of the cleaner. These days Dyson are said to do all their creative marketing in-house and simply contract in directors to film their TV adverts.
M00seUK


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Points: 295

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #57   Sep 15, 2009 5:02 pm
CarmineD wrote:
M00seUK:

If you have any ads for the new dyson handheld from the dyson library that are better for comparison purposes with the B&D lady, please post here.  Who knows.  Maybe I'll change my mind? 

Carmine D.


There might be some photos in Dyson's on-line press release photo library. Alas I don't have a user account to be able to check. I'll let you know if I ever see any online.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #58   Sep 15, 2009 5:10 pm
M00seUK wrote:
Oh, no contest, I'd much prefer the natural brunette over Miss IFA who looks like she's sporting a red wig.

To mention that Dyson's first television commercial, for the DC01, featured a relatively attractive lady in her mid to late 30s, but rather than simply being the 'eye candy', she was there to explain, to camera, the Dyson bagless benefits in a 'straight-up' manner. The script for said advert was written in-house at Dyson after they despised of creative suggestions puts across from ad agencies. The advert was widely acknowledged for sky rocketing the sales of the cleaner. These days Dyson are said to do all their creative marketing in-house and simply contract in directors to film their TV adverts.


Hello M00seUK:

We have similar tastes in women used in advertising.  At least on these two instances.

ORECK, as in  Dave, always does his own advertising.  Tho, at his age he is slowly passing the advertising to Judy ORECK.  

Carmine D. 

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #59   Sep 15, 2009 5:11 pm
M00seUK wrote:
There might be some photos in Dyson's on-line press release photo library. Alas I don't have a user account to be able to check. I'll let you know if I ever see any online.



Thank you.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #60   Sep 18, 2009 9:22 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Vacmanuk:</p><p>Did you keep/return the DC16?  </p><p>Carmine D.

Lordy NO, I couldn't stand the noise and ended up giving it to the local high school who used it for a period in their wood work classes. It didn't last very long having to suck up fine wood dust I'm told!
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #61   Sep 18, 2009 9:35 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Lordy NO, I couldn't stand the noise and ended up giving it to the local high school who used it for a period in their wood work classes. It didn't last very long having to suck up fine wood dust I'm told!



Comes with a 2 year warranty.  After your gifting to the school, it let dyson off the hook to repair and/or replace under warranty.  Dyson got over on you/school.

Wood working class should be an ideal usage for cordless dyson handhelds if it didn't prematurely choke and die. 

I mentioned on another thread that dyson and Sam's have bundled a DC16 with a DC27 for $479.  Basically gifting the handheld with the a DC27 purchase.  Attempting to salvage sales of dyson's DC27 which are not being bought.  Not sure adding a free DC16 will make a difference.  I was surprised to see the dyson handheld untethered to the shelf next to a DC27 display.  At one time with pilferage of dysons a concern, these $150-$200 dyson toys would be locked down to prevent thiefs from walking off with them.  No more it seems.  

Carmine D.

This message was modified Sep 18, 2009 by CarmineD
retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #62   Sep 19, 2009 1:53 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello 'turtle1'

After 37 years of marriage, my dear Wife doesn't have to tell me when to take out trash.  By the way, you may want to take out that fake lady and dyson with the trash.  When you get to W*M take note of what handhelds it stocks and sells.  Let us know please if dyson is there for sale.  I'm thinking not. 

Carmine D.


HI CARMINE

Nope.....no dyson handvacs and no empty space where it could or would be.. i asked the lady working in the dept. about  the dyson and b&d handvacs

...she didnt know they made handvacs,,so i thanked her and moved on. ,,Sorry for the delayed response..we decided to get away for a week or so and head out to the coast for some r&r.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #63   Sep 19, 2009 7:23 am
Thanks 'turtle1'  Glad to hear you and your Wife got away for some R&R.

My dear Wife too is back east with her Mom.  I had to stay behind with the 4 legged furry friend. 

W*M and other big box rip off stores don't carry dyson's DC16 and probably won't carry DC30/31.  Perhaps internet sales?  Why?  Too expensive.  Not worth the money.  Too limited in customer interest and appeal.  Dyson messed up the marketing with this product.  Not surprising.  Tho the product really has limited use and lackluster performance.  Dyson has an uphill climb to convince buyers of a DC16 to trade up to a newer one at $220-$270.  The new one does what the old should have for the money and includes an carbon brush exhaust free motor.  It's a handheld.  How much carbon brush exhaust is emitted? Dyson has a knack for taking an irrelevant feature and talking it up with hype.  Allowed him to charge exorbitant prices for the worthless features.

I mentioned on another thread Sam's is gifting a DC 16 with purchase of a DC27 for $479.  Dyson bundles the two specifically for the Sam's promotion.  I'm not convinced gifting an overpriced toy dyson handheld with a $479 dyson sale with improve sales of this model at Sam's.  By Christmas season these dysons will be on discount/clearance for $100 off [at least] with the toy hand held included too. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #64   Sep 19, 2009 11:34 am

CarmineD wrote:
Hello Vacmanuk:  Did you keep/return the DC16?  Carmine D.

vacmanuk wrote:
Lordy NO, I couldn't stand the noise and ended up giving it to the local high school who used it for a period in their wood work classes. It didn't last very long having to suck up fine wood dust I'm told!

VacmanUK, just how would Dyson decrease the sound without decreasing suction and withoug increasing weight, size, and costs?

The sound is in relation to much air being moved (the vac's doing a great job moving air/suctioning and doing it better than all cordless handhelds in its class).  You’re preference for quieter cordless handhelds comes at a price…  weaker suction when new and weakening suction as it is being used (it's clogging).

Can you guarantee or state this DC16 was properly used and maintained (per the Dyson manual)?  How many of these students do you think read the manual or were told what the manual said?  Did you personally read the manual to the students or insist the shop teacher did?

Vacuuming and more importantly...  filtering the "fine wood dust" is a non-issue with this vacuum.  It will devour and gladly filter "fine wood dust," all day-every day and do it without loosing any suction strength (as long as it is used and maintained properly - per manual). 


DIB
This message was modified Sep 19, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Move over DC31.. BLACK & DECKER Dustbuster Flexi
Reply #65   Sep 19, 2009 12:27 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Thanks 'turtle1'  Glad to hear you and your Wife got away for some R&R.

My dear Wife too is back east with her Mom.  I had to stay behind with the 4 legged furry friend. 

W*M and other big box rip off stores don't carry dyson's DC16 and probably won't carry DC30/31.  Perhaps internet sales?  Why?  Too expensive.  Not worth the money.  Too limited in customer interest and appeal.  Dyson messed up the marketing with this product.  Not surprising.  Tho the product really has limited use and lackluster performance.  Dyson has an uphill climb to convince buyers of a DC16 to trade up to a newer one at $220-$270.  The new one does what the old should have for the money and includes an carbon brush exhaust free motor.  It's a handheld.  How much carbon brush exhaust is emitted? Dyson has a knack for taking an irrelevant feature and talking it up with hype.  Allowed him to charge exorbitant prices for the worthless features.

I mentioned on another thread Sam's is gifting a DC 16 with purchase of a DC27 for $479.  Dyson bundles the two specifically for the Sam's promotion.  I'm not convinced gifting an overpriced toy dyson handheld with a $479 dyson sale with improve sales of this model at Sam's.  By Christmas season these dysons will be on discount/clearance for $100 off [at least] with the toy hand held included too. 

Carmine D.


Carmine,

I’m embarrassed for you… the entire world is in a recession and struggling.  Can’t you think of anything smart to say?  Bundling and lowering prices is worldwide.  Saying something smart would help your lack of credibility, especially after defending Venson’s dual persona deception (him pretending to be Severus).  Did you notice a sudden drop off of posts after this came out?  You and others need to decide…  defend Venson’s bizarre behavior or build/keep this forum going.   This forum could easily die-on-the-vine.  And if you don't believe me then watch, and watch it die.


DIB
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