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zavdavpam


Joined: Nov 5, 2011
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Help with new Ariens snow blower gear case
Original Message   Nov 5, 2011 11:53 pm
Just picked up my new Deluxe 30 blower.  Like the manual said to, I checked fluid levels before trying to start it.  The manual clearly states to not overtighten the gear case fill screw so I used a torque wrench to get it right.  Well, me or the wrench "screwed" up and I stripped the thread.  I removed the cover to the gear case (which the manual advised against) to see if I could see and remove any shavings that fell into the case.  I couldn't  see any but it's likely that some got in and I are just too hard to see.  I have two questions:

1. The manual states that if the thread is stripped then the warranty is voided.  Is it just the warranty for that part?  If I install a new cover how would they even know?

2. If there are any shavings that did get in, they are small and few.  Is that a problem for the gears?

Any help is appreciated.  Spending $1400 on a new machine and then messing it up about an hour later is not fun.

Dave

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Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
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Re: Help with new Ariens snow blower gear case
Reply #5   Nov 7, 2011 12:26 pm
Coldfingers wrote:
You can use the locking washers over again, I have many times. Like the other guy said, just snug them up, they don't have to be that tight.

Actually this isn't correct. You can re-use the hardware for the top cover mounts (4 bolts and starlock washers), but the clamp load is important. There is a rubber gasket under the cover that requires a certain clamp load to seal. 96 to 144 in-lbs is the spec.
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Intruder


Joined: Sep 29, 2011
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Re: Help with new Ariens snow blower gear case
Reply #6   Nov 7, 2011 7:20 pm
Dave,

Bummer about your new blower.... just as an point of interest, was the gear case full when you opened it? 

Mine was full, but I've heard from some that the fluid was low, from the factory.....

- Ken

BTW, as far as I know, all the gear cases on this years Ariens Snow blowers are cast iron.


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zavdavpam


Joined: Nov 5, 2011
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Re: Help with new Ariens snow blower gear case
Reply #7   Nov 12, 2011 9:49 am
Intruder wrote:
Dave,

Bummer about your new blower.... just as an point of interest, was the gear case full when you opened it? 

Mine was full, but I've heard from some that the fluid was low, from the factory.....

- Ken

BTW, as far as I know, all the gear cases on this years Ariens Snow blowers are cast iron.



It appeared to be filled to specs but the only way to tell that by just removing the fill screw would be to stick something all the way down and measure from the top.  There's only about an inch of fluid.
zavdavpam


Joined: Nov 5, 2011
Points: 8

Re: Help with new Ariens snow blower gear case
Reply #8   Nov 12, 2011 10:01 am
Snowmann wrote:
Actually this isn't correct. You can re-use the hardware for the top cover mounts (4 bolts and starlock washers), but the clamp load is important. There is a rubber gasket under the cover that requires a certain clamp load to seal. 96 to 144 in-lbs is the spec.


Does the clamp load mean the the screws have to be set to a certain tourqe or is there another tool I need?  Also, the blower manual states "reinstall filler screw and seal washer to 12,5 lbf-ft"  The comma didn't make sense to me.  As a complete newbie with a tourqe wrench, I set it to 12.5 foot pounds. Was I incorrect?
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
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Re: Help with new Ariens snow blower gear case
Reply #9   Nov 12, 2011 1:15 pm
I would interpret 12,5 as 12.5 as well.  However, are you sure it says foot pounds and not inch pounds?  I have never seen it, but for what size I would think of a fill plug on there I would be thinking inch pounds and not foot pounds.
jrtrebor


Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Points: 539

Re: Help with new Ariens snow blower gear case
Reply #10   Nov 12, 2011 1:24 pm
I would read it 12.5 ft/lbs.  You can really just run it in with your fingers until you can't anymore. ( I believe snowman said that it has a type of crush washer on it).
So you will feel some resistance beyond that point with a wrench or socket. But then it will just stop turning.  At that point it's tight.  It's just a plug.  It's not holding a part on, or bolting two parts together. 
Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: Help with new Ariens snow blower gear case
Reply #11   Nov 12, 2011 11:30 pm
Shryp wrote:
I would interpret 12,5 as 12.5 as well.  However, are you sure it says foot pounds and not inch pounds?  I have never seen it, but for what size I would think of a fill plug on there I would be thinking inch pounds and not foot pounds.


12.5 ft-lbs for the early revision aluminum crush washer, 6.7 ft-lb for the later revision rubberized washer. The torque is a critical spec. It is noted in the manual that failing to torque this properly will void the warranty.
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