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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

SeaFoam test
Original Message   Dec 26, 2009 11:52 am

   SeaForm makes many claims about what it can do. 

 

Injector cleaner

Carburetor cleaner

Carbon cleaner,

Fuel stabilizer

Frees lifters – rings

De-icer anti-jell

Upper cylinder lub

Dries oil and fuel

Cleans carbon as you drive.

Cures hesitations ,stalls, pings, and rough idle due to carbon buildup.

Cleans dirty engine part internally by removing harmful gums, varnish and carbon.  WORKS AND PERFORMS INSTANTLY. 

 

   That’s quite a versatile list of claims.  Given the repeated claim for carbon it should do something when contacting carbon.

 

  SeaFoam says 1 pint treats 25 gallons.  That’s a mix of 200 to 1.  If it can clean at that mix it should dissolve carbon easily at full strength.  Below is a picture of carbon put in a class with full strength SeaFrom for several hours with occasional shaking.  There is no breakup of the particles. 

 

   The other picture of a head and piston with carbon.  The loose carbon was wiped off and the rags dipped with SeaFoam and rubbed on the head and piston.  The rags are slightly discolored but not from dissolved particles.  The discolor is just picked up particles of carbon a rag without SeaFoam will pick up. 

 

   Given that it did not dissolve carbon full strength and would not remove carbon with a rag directly on a piston and head it seems doubtful that at a mix or 200 to 1 it will do very much rushing over the head and piston of an engine. 

 

   SeaFoam does not seem to do anything. What went wrong here?  No dissolved carbon in the glass and only slight smudging on the rags with no removal of carbon from the head or piston after rubbing.  What’s going on?  If it does not do anything at full strength how can it work at 200 to 1 where only slight fraction of the 200 to 1 mix will actually contact the carbon when an engine is running
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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #28   Dec 30, 2009 8:36 pm
How do you come to the conclusion that I made claims that our test results were all that different? I didn't claim that the piston was clean nor did I claim that SeaFoam had performed any miracles. It would appear that you are hell bent on contesting any evidence other than what you provide. No one is saying that you have to either purchase, use, or support the validity of claims of what SeaFoam can do. I submitted my test methods and results. My results were not that much different than yours despite your insinuations. For the record, neither of our tests are recommended procedures for the use of the product. I have had positive results (be it coincidental or otherwise) using SeaFoam. I've seen improvements in engine performance as well observed two stroke outboard engine piston tops shedding some carbon after being run for an extended period of time under load with SeaFoam in the fuel. So, if you wish to continue with your one sided pissing match, have at it. I've made my point and don't see anything of any value from further discussion in this regard.
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #29   Jan 2, 2010 1:20 pm

JohnnyBoyUpNorth [aka Troublemaker]: Trouts, maybe if you ran some SeaFoam through your engines more often,

 

JohnnyBoyUpNorth you are an unabashed, self confessed, admitted, and known user of SeaFoam and don’t try to back peddle.  You’re part of the SeaFoam Clique.  The Gang of religiously fanatical faith based users of SeaFoam.

 

Without shame you have said:

 

“I use it all the time.”

“I am a big fan of SeaFoam.”

“I use it in everything.”

“I like my SeaFoam the same way I like my Black Rum.”

 

You are obviously addicted to SeaFoam and have the dreaded SeaFoam Disease (SFD).

 

JohnnyBoyUpNorth it’s time to turn your life around and save yourself from SFD. 

Swear off SeaFoam and be forever saved. 

 

Science has not caught up to SFD yet so no patches you can put on to kick the habit but there is a clinic up on the UP of Michigan run by SeaFoam Anonymous.  It’s pricey but your life and soul are at stake.  Don’t be ashamed or embarrassed about your addiction.  There are many afflicted.  You are not alone.  Have courage, take the pledge, do the right thing for your self, family and country.  I’ll forward the contact particulars of SFA privately. 

 

Your 11hp Honda repower did not work out because you choked it up with that crud “Miracle Elixer”.  Get with the program, dump out the snake oil and get that machine smok’in so you can toss a mile over into Borat’s yard.

 

Nothing is worse than a slow, withering and pain ridden mournful OPE demise brought about by the use of ………

 

JohnnyBoyUpNorth, your future and fate await you.
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #30   Jan 3, 2010 10:09 am
Borat:  Sounds like you might be skeert to find out!

The above is pretty weird Borat , get a grip.  Posed over here with all silly stuff. 

You need to re-read the posts about RPMs.  If you are quite positive about how Toro configures their Brigs engines RPM and have an issue with 3300 RPM then you should contact the factory reps and their tech pub department.

JohnnyBoyUpNorth


Location: New Brunswick Canada
Joined: Dec 30, 2007
Points: 72

Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #31   Jan 3, 2010 12:20 pm
Come on Trouts... Seafoam disease? How about this? I'll hook you up with some "primo" SF. Guaranteed you'll be hooked. First time's free Kiddo!

All hail SeaFoam!

Contents under pressure....
kipsy


Joined: Dec 23, 2004
Points: 14

Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #32   Jan 3, 2010 4:20 pm
got snow all day today while buffalo was playing on CBS. tried to get the honda hs521 going but wouldnt start. 4-5 plunges of the ariens 824 primer and off i go. later in the day, thought id clean up another 3-6 inches with the honda. still no start. got the 1 year old never used can of seafoam spray off the storage rack and squirted some in the carb area, dont even know if it went in the hole. 3 pulls later the honda is back to life.

2004 jd lt180 m42 deck 2000 ariens 824 1987 honda 5s21 1995 honda push mower 2005 honda 25cc trimmer
mikiewest


Joined: Dec 29, 2007
Points: 262

Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #33   Jan 3, 2010 4:44 pm
I read online if you mix 1oz. of seafoam w/8oz. of O.J. it will clean any crud,carbon,undigested meat in your intestines....lol..
JohnnyBoyUpNorth


Location: New Brunswick Canada
Joined: Dec 30, 2007
Points: 72

Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #34   Jan 3, 2010 5:15 pm
I was told that it had the power to pull North America out of this economic slump. If anything can do it, Seafoam can. I keep a can with me at all times.

Contents under pressure....
mikiewest


Joined: Dec 29, 2007
Points: 262

Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #35   Jan 3, 2010 5:24 pm
johnnyboy...it'll take 2cans per directions....
newjerseybt


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Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #36   Jan 3, 2010 10:22 pm
trouts2 wrote:
Borat:  Sounds like you might be skeert to find out!</p><p>The above is pretty weird Borat , get a grip.  Posed over here with all silly stuff.  </p><p>You need to re-read the posts about RPMs.  If you are quite positive about how Toro configures their Brigs engines RPM and have an issue with 3300 RPM then you should contact the factory reps and their tech pub department.
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Borat is OK...it's just a minor personality quirk. I have my own ideosynchrosies but I find I need to work at taming them else I would have a lot less friends in the world. ;')

To make this Seafoam Test more scientific will take additional labor and another head gasket but will adding some in the gas tank and running the machine have different results? It may possibly work similar to water injection. Just my 2 cents.
oldcrow


If it ain't broke, try harder

Location: Northern MI
Joined: Jan 15, 2008
Points: 63

Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #37   Jan 22, 2010 1:15 am
Another 2-cents:

Just a guess here, but could it be possible that Seafoam requires heat in order for a catalytic reaction to take place? Like, say, in a combustion chamber?  As far as what the stuff does at room temp, it definitely does not seem to be any super-solvent.

I'm not a Seafoam advocate, nor do I use it very often. I've tried it, but haven't been impressed with the results. Your mileage may vary. Like trouts2 said, the can claims it does everything but put on your coat and light your cigarette for you - golly gee-whiz! I didn't buy the ad copy, but I've used it a few times based upon recommendations from others. Didn't hurt, but didn't seem to help much either.

I asked my brother (a marine mechanic) about this stuff once, and he told me it works OK if you have heavy carbon build-up, but there are cheaper - and more effective - decarbonizers out there. He also said save your money if you think Seafoam is going to unclog a dirty carb, refresh stale gas, or remove moisture from fuel lines. That's what he said. The guy's been in the business for over 18 years, and gets paid pretty well to know what he's doing.

Although I'm no advocate, I figure the stuff must have some worth for so many folks to swear by it. One thing's for sure, though - the manufacturer is making serious money on this product. I wonder if any un-biased organization has ever really taken Seafoam's claims to task? A future Consumer Reports project, perhaps?
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