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Carmine D.

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It's just a matter of time alright.  What vacuum do you use now and recommend to others?  A HOOVER lightweight bagged copied exactly after the ORECK.    I luv it! 

Carmine D.

It's just a matter of time alright.  What vacuum do you use now and recommend to others?  A HOOVER lightweight bagged copied exactly after the ORECK.    I luv it! 

Carmine D.

Hoover in name only.  Copied but not duplicated.  The Hoover actually cleans.

Remember when you recommended Hoover and claimed that they would be the demise of Dyson.  Dyson hasn't been sold. Hoover was.  You abandoned the Hoover ship after it sank and climbed in the Oreck life boat.  Now that raft is taking on water.

Unless you can walk on water you better be looking for another raft.

HOOVER is the gold standard of rug cleaning.  Always was and still is.  The vacuum name in rug cleaning for almost 100 years.  Your own purchase of the HOOVER lightweighth affirms this.  ORECK is the standard bearer for lightweights.  Always was and still is.  The vacuum name in lightweights for almost 50 years.  Again you affirm this by trying ORECKs not just once but twice before settling with the HOOVER.  I like both brands and their models.  

Dyson makes a decent bagless FINALLY after scrubbing the gawdawful clutch and floating head nonsense [discontinued].  Not surprisng to me to see dyson prices FINALLY coming down to realistic amounts to compete in the big box store venues, its primary sales market in the USA.  Dyson made these recent price/product changes exactly for the reasons you said above:  To stay afloat and keep from sinking further in the industry.  Just as I said years ago they would have to do when you and others kow towed my words.  Better late than never.  Especially for a niche market player like dyson.

Carmine D.

I always liked Hoover untill about 10 or so years back.  Still always thought Electrolux and Rainbow were better cleaners.  Gold standard is a useless title.  My carpets look 90% as good as when new and have seen less Hoover than any brand.  No wear, no tear and deep clean.  Being a standard for a lightweight is also a title with no value with reference to cleaning ability.  Electric autos are a standard for saving gas, however they are of little value for travel.  Two Orecks and nothing positive to say. Speaks well of Oreck doesn't it?

I seriously doubt that competition impacted Dyson price cuts as much as other factors.  Poor economy #1.  Recouped costs on R&D.  Remember how you made fun of Dyson's # of engineers and bragged about Hoover's few.  Dyson was developing new products.  Hoover only developed new series names for their existing junk.  Who needs an engineer to develop a name change?  I do not recall saying that Dyson would never reduce pricing.  It is only a given after time in the market.  Remember a couple years ago when plasma TV's were so expensive.  Currently they are the least expensive on the market.

I do remember that the with the intro of each new Hoover series you claimed that it would be the demise of Dyson and I said no.  You and Hoover failed.  As I recall Hoover was desperately cutting prices in a good economy while Dyson was actually increasing.  Dyson thrived and Hoover failed.

Oreck has resorted to buying other brands is an attempt to get a vac with cleaning power.  Dyson still produces their own.

Get a raft Carmine.

Having had to try ORECK twice, like you did, speaks more about you than ORECK.  You obviously aren't sure.  Buying, using and selling your dyson DC07 and not buying another dyson while boasting of the brand also speaks volumes.  Still not sure.  

On a good note Consumer Reports, the consumer magazine you like to take exception with, rates the HOOVER duo you bought and used as number ONE in the upright category.  I have to say NOT for $500, $400 or $300.  $250 is more like it.  About what all new dysons are probably worth in a good economy.

Dyson and its 500 engineers FINALLY followed my email advice to them in September 2006 and scrubbed the gawdawful clutch and discontinued the models using it.    Better late than never. 

Carmine D. 

Hello Trebor:

Your friend and the new ORECK Home Health Center owner/operator bought into a turn-key business operation.  Best kind. 

Carmine D.