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iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
Points: 110

Dyson DC14 and DC31 being discontinued.
Original Message   Jul 25, 2010 2:32 am
Hi everyone, The other day I had a conversation with an indie central vacuum shop owner that recently became a Dyson dealer/service center, and from that little chit chat I learned of a few things. First off, the DC14 upright is being discontinued in the coming months. He isn't sure if it will have a new model take its place, but I think it's safe to assume that the same DC33 that is replacing the DC14 in the UK will replace it on this side of the pond as well. Secondly, he revealed that the DC31 handheld is being discontinued as well. I wasn't sure I believed him on that count, but surely enough, a quick google search reveal that DC31's are on clearance, and even being labeled as "discontinued" by walmart.com (google "dyson DC31 discontinued", and read the second link). There is nothing to indicate that the handheld will see another successor at this time. Also, though he didn't mention anything about the DC22, I strongly believe it is on the way out as well, with many retailers slashing prices and clearing them out (again, google "dyson DC22 discontinued", and read the sixth link down).
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iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC14 and DC31 being discontinued.
Reply #15   Jul 27, 2010 12:16 am
On a side note, I don't think the Air Multiplier has the V.2 DDM. I've only seen the motor referred to as "Brushless AC motor", which leads me to believe that it isn't a DDM (something which Dyson has marketed the hell out of for their Airblade and DC31 handheld). In addition, we have two Air Multipliers at work, and the motor(s) sound nothing like the DDM (as used featured in the DC22 and DC31).
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC14 and DC31 being discontinued.
Reply #16   Jul 27, 2010 6:45 am
iMacDaddy wrote:
Dyson needs to get this motor ready for prime time, and put it in use within a product that people actually want/need (i.e. - A full size upright priced between $400-$550). I strongly think that their flagship motor technology should have been featured in an upright all along rather in niche products such as an $800 mini-canister or an extravagantly priced hand held. I think with the right marketing and the restrained pricing (A strong focus on zero carbon emissions and heightened efficiency, as well as a price tag THAT ISN'T $800, lol), this upright could succeed. I think a DC18 successor with a digital motor, reduced weight, and other features like variable suction control and LED lighting would make a far superior design compared to the DC25; the company's flagship(s) and current best seller--the department store of which I'm currently employed sells more DC25's than any other vacuum we sell, and surprisingly enough, a good number of DC28's along with them. I'm pretty certain that this Digital Slim is coming (what other Dyson product in patent purgatory has a trademarked logo?), but I hope for their sake that they hold back the overzealous pricing on this one, and price it as a volume seller and not a novelty niche item. It kinda scares me to speculate how high this model can be priced, seeing that they attempted selling the DC22 at over $800; I hope DC22's failure will convince them to lower the prices on future DDM products.


iMacDaddy:

IMHO the recent DDM slim patent on a wide range of vacuums/floorcare products [does and will dyson have ANY of the latter?] including some already in production suggests one of two things/both.  First, dyson is concerned another maker may trump his DDM in vacuum applications [always a concern of his] and he wants to be ready to pounce with a lawsuit to collect proceeds for the infringement [typical dyson operating procedure].  Two, dyson plans to sell the patent rights to the DDM for vacuum applications to recover some of the expensed R&D lost on it and go in another direction with DDM for other household applications. 

Apparently, despite vehement opinion to the contrary it appears dyson has in fact scrubbed its MAP awhile back [latest evidence is Venson's post above regarding discontinued DC14] and current dyson models typically advertised and sold for less than MAP.  Usually 20 percent discounts [MAP is 10] not counting other buyer incentives.  More unlike the traditional dyson we know, is the latest DC33 line [in the UK] which  IMHO is a budget minded consumer line.  It took dyson/Sir James awhile but maybe it finally clicked. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jul 27, 2010 by CarmineD
Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
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Re: Dyson DC14 and DC31 being discontinued.
Reply #17   Jul 29, 2010 7:27 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Once again I have to rebut you.  Discontinuing the DDM products like the DC16, DC31, and DC22 outright and upfront AND shuttering the DDM production plant before transitioning to another site and/or launching new products with DDM send a message loud and clear to me and probably others in the industry.  The DDM at least in the handhelds and canns are a flop for whatever reasons and there may be many.  Nothing to wait and see.  The chapter closed on those products using DDM and the plant producing.   It's back to the drawing board anew.  Back to square 1 for vacuum applications of DDM.  I'm not buying what you and dyson are selling on the DDM for hand dryers either.   But the latter are no concern to me as a vacuum professional [even if a retired one]. 

Carmine D.



"there may be many" reasons why you have no idea what your talking about, but you don't for "whatever reasons".
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC14 and DC31 being discontinued.
Reply #18   Jul 29, 2010 7:47 pm
Hertz wrote:
"there may be many" reasons why you have no idea what your talking about, but you don't for "whatever reasons".


You should know what you're talking about.  You're the junk expert here.  12 for less than the price of a latte.

Carmine D. 

vacmanuk


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Re: Dyson DC14 and DC31 being discontinued.
Reply #19   Jul 29, 2010 8:12 pm
Good one! Thing is, most lattes leave a good taste in the mouth though!
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
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Re: Dyson DC14 and DC31 being discontinued.
Reply #20   Aug 1, 2010 8:27 pm
Well the DC33 has arrived in the UK under three different models: the DC33 Multi Floor, DC33 Stubborn and DC33 Animal. One interesting note is that Dyson have apparently made this a better upright than the DC14 it replaces, yet the DC14 was about 8.2kg in weight and this new one is 8kg. Hardly making much of a saving grace there although it does have 1300watts motor.
iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
Points: 110

Re: Dyson DC14 and DC31 being discontinued.
Reply #21   Aug 6, 2010 12:50 am
Just thought I'd share with you that many retailers are receiving info on the next Dyson, one which I have personally seen labeled as "DC33MF" in a signing database. Not sure what the "MF" stands for, but regardless, it should be out in the next month or two in the US.
iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
Points: 110

Re: Dyson DC14 and DC31 being discontinued.
Reply #22   Aug 6, 2010 12:55 am
Hmm, I think "MF" actually stands for "Multi Floor", as it does with the UK version. I guess Dyson no longer holds the trademark for "All Floors"...which would explain why that designation is used on the new Kenmore Intuition uprights.
Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Dyson DC14 and DC31 being discontinued.
Reply #23   Aug 7, 2010 1:26 pm
CarmineD wrote:
You should know what you're talking about.  You're the junk expert here.  12 for less than the price of a latte.

Carmine D. 



You're really that desperate huh? Pathetically using the fact of 12 for about $30 a piece, when I've seen Miele's and SEBO's go for less in better condition? They're not junk when they're built better, work better, filter better, and last better than O-what-a-Recks. OOPS! I meant Orecks! My bad.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC14 and DC31 being discontinued.
Reply #24   Aug 7, 2010 4:39 pm
Hertz wrote:
You're really that desperate huh? Pathetically using the fact of 12 for about $30 a piece, when I've seen Miele's and SEBO's go for less in better condition? They're not junk when they're built better, work better, filter better, and last better than O-what-a-Recks. OOPS! I meant Orecks! My bad.

You missed the point.  You don't pay someone else to buy their garbage by the pallet.  As you did.  Regardless of the price and brand name.  You charge them to remove and dispose of it.  That's the point you need to grasp and comprehend before you argue the merits of what it is you buy/sell.  Junk is junk.  Regardless of the brand.  

Carmine D.

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