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Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Anybody ever heard of "Morphy Richards" vacuums?
Original Message   Jul 3, 2010 10:24 pm
Evidently they're UK only, but they seem to make some good priced quality machines. They offer between 2-3 year warranties, and their flagship model - the most expensive cyclonic-like canister- has a wheel system like a Miele and has some really ingenious innovations to the cyclonic RUG NOZZEL. http://www.morphyrichards.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?Product=71080 They also made a neat your-vacuum-powered wet/dry attachment: http://www.morphyrichards.co.uk/NewsArticle.aspx?Category=NC9&Article=NFC_04 What's the quality like on these machines? Evidently one person thinks their flagship model beats their Dyson in performance, and says it's well built next to a Dyson - which says a good amount. Any thoughts?
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vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Anybody ever heard of "Morphy Richards" vacuums?
Reply #7   Jul 5, 2010 9:56 pm
MR vacs were good pre-war and after the war. But they went downhill in the 1990s. The ONLY vacuum that they seem to make well is a German made model that MR just won't take off the market and it is bagged. It also appears under the EIO branding in various forms. If I was to think about a brand that is comparable to Morphy Richards, then I'd say Dirt Devil when they were first starting out. MR vacs are humble, cheap offerings that aren't particularly well made except their motors are highly efficient and longer lasting.  I've used quite a few MR vacs as a student in dormitories throughout my life and although they're okay, the bags and filters are hard to find. Here's a collection of the German models and MR's uprights which you may recognize in the U.S


http://www.bestvac.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/70066-hero-300x219.jpghttp://p.gzhls.at/358024.jpghttp://www.envirogadget.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Morphy-Richards-Ecolectric-Vacuum-Cleaner.jpgMorphy Richards 73352 Upright



Im pretty sure that Euro Shark have had some of these models/of the cyclonic uprights.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Anybody ever heard of "Morphy Richards" vacuums?
Reply #8   Jul 6, 2010 7:09 am
Several big box retailers debutted a new range of Dirt Devil straight suction canns somewhat similar to the MR pictured.  These are not yet on the Dirt Devil web site.  They come in a variety of standard colors for household decor.  Retail for $70.

 Carmine D.

9878816 Angle Large

Clean your floors with this lightweight canister vacuum that features a 10-amp motor and straight-suction cleaning. The 11" cleaning path width allows you to clean a large area of flooring with each pass.

What's Included

  • Dirt Devil Tattoo Canister Vacuum
  • Extendable wand, crevice tool, dusting brush
  • Owner's manual

Product Features

  • From our expanded online assortment; not available in all Best Buy stores.
  • 10 amps of power
    To thoroughly clean your floors.
  • Filtration
    Ensures a healthier home environment.
  • 11" cleaning path width
    Lets you cover a wide range of flooring with every pass.
  • 20' cord
    Lets you clean a large area before changing outlets.
  • Lightweight design
    Make the vacuum easy to transport from room to room.
  • Extension wand
    Helps you clean hard-to-reach places.Dirt Devil - Tattoo Canister Vacuum - Red 
  • 10 amps of power
    To thoroughly clean your floors.
  • Filtration
    Ensures a healthier home environment.
  • 11" cleaning path width
    Lets you cover a wide range of flooring with every pass.
  • 20' cord
    Lets you clean a large area before changing outlets.
  • Lightweight design
    Make the vacuum easy to transport from room to room.
  • Extension wand
    Helps you clean hard-to-reach places.Dirt Devil - Tattoo Canister Vacuum - Red 
  • 10 amps of power
    To thoroughly clean your floors.
  • Filtration
    Ensures a healthier home environment.
  • 11" cleaning path width
    Lets you cover a wide range of flooring with every pass.
  • 20' cord
    Lets you clean a large area before changing outlets.
  • Lightweight design
    Make the vacuum easy to transport from room to room.
  • Extension wand
    Helps you clean hard-to-reach places.Dirt Devil - Tattoo Canister Vacuum - Red 
This message was modified Jul 6, 2010 by CarmineD
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Anybody ever heard of "Morphy Richards" vacuums?
Reply #9   Jul 6, 2010 7:28 am
http://blogs.dogtime.com/system/tiny_mce_photos/0003/6280/Kmart_shark_vacuum_medium.jpghttp://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/9e/0/AAAAAvEY7bgAAAAAAJ4FWQ.jpghttp://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/mo/morphy-richards-73300.gif

Here are two Shark uprights for example. The first one is a TTi/Dirt Devil we had in the U.K as the Vax Widetrack. Then there's the Shark bagged upright vacuum which is the same as the Morphy Richards bagged vacuum.
I had two of these models, "73300" in 1400 and 1500 watt variations. Never again! Both models suffered from breaking parts, the wheels kept coming off and the height dials would often snap off. MR were so scathed about this vacuum that they went ahead and replaced the floor head on later models to a flatter design with better wheels at the back.

Carmine - MR are not TTI owned - not yet - so whatever models they are bringing out in terms of canister design, I doubt they will match the TTI designs. Shark appear to be taking models from a host of other European brands not just Morphy Richards.




CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Anybody ever heard of "Morphy Richards" vacuums?
Reply #10   Jul 6, 2010 8:00 am
vacmanuk wrote:


Here are two Shark uprights for example. The first one is a TTi/Dirt Devil we had in the U.K as the Vax Widetrack. Then there's the Shark bagged upright vacuum which is the same as the Morphy Richards bagged vacuum.
I had two of these models, "73300" in 1400 and 1500 watt variations. Never again! Both models suffered from breaking parts, the wheels kept coming off and the height dials would often snap off. MR were so scathed about this vacuum that they went ahead and replaced the floor head on later models to a flatter design with better wheels at the back.

Carmine - MR are not TTI owned - not yet - so whatever models they are bringing out in terms of canister design, I doubt they will match the TTI designs. Shark appear to be taking models from a host of other European brands not just Morphy Richards.






But is MR in the UK subcontracting production of some of its vacuum models to the TTI Chinese run plant?  That's the question I have vacmanuk.  Not just for MR but other vacuum makers too. 

Carmine D.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Anybody ever heard of "Morphy Richards" vacuums?
Reply #11   Jul 6, 2010 10:18 am
Hertz wrote:
Very well said. MUCH appreciated insight and arguably factual conjectures. Have you ever been in the retail or repair business? What's your favorite vacuum out of curiosity. ?



To be perfectly honest I'm probably more interested in the evolution of vacuum cleaners than anything else. For good or ill, it's certainly been interesting to follow the road from the late 50s up to now.  Consumer and manufacturing trends and what may lead them them have also been equally as interesting to observe and consider.

 I've always wanted to sell vacuums because I have a good understanding of they work and how they are best used but never got the opportunity.  That's not a negative but possibly a plus point for me because, along with a great deal of independent research, I learned a lot from the customer's side of the sales counter.  I see myself as pro consumer.

I'm curious about everything and can't wholeheartedly cite a single favorite vacuum.  I like any vacuum that is well thought out in regard to employment of air flow and suction concentration without power over-use, that's durable and that is convenient and easy to use.  I deliberately left out "enjoyable to use" since the beauty in the art of hosework is strictly in the eye of the person who's got to do it.

Venson

Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Anybody ever heard of "Morphy Richards" vacuums?
Reply #12   Jul 6, 2010 5:48 pm
Or is going to do it ;) But yes, there is an "art" to housework, for sure. I REALLY enjoy vacuuming, but generally only with well made, well thought-out and designed vacuums similar to what you said. Do you have any Miele's, Sebo's, or Dyson's?
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Anybody ever heard of "Morphy Richards" vacuums?
Reply #13   Jul 6, 2010 9:10 pm
Hertz I think you have a problem with perhaps wondering what "well made," is. Is it, in your opinion according to pricing?

I only ask because one of my favourite vacuums to use was the old British made Vax canister. It is made with lightweight plastic but the design of it, as a tub vac with a 3 in 1 shampoo/wash function as well as dry dirt and wet suction procedure was one of the best innovations in the UK market in 1980. For all that it was made of lightweight plastic, it was a heavy old thing but quiet and it remained in our family for 23 years - without anything having to be replaced other than the filters on board and the dust bag. To me, that was one of the "well made," vacuums.
Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Anybody ever heard of "Morphy Richards" vacuums?
Reply #14   Jul 7, 2010 4:16 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Hertz I think you have a problem with perhaps wondering what "well made," is. Is it, in your opinion according to pricing?

I only ask because one of my favourite vacuums to use was the old British made Vax canister. It is made with lightweight plastic but the design of it, as a tub vac with a 3 in 1 shampoo/wash function as well as dry dirt and wet suction procedure was one of the best innovations in the UK market in 1980. For all that it was made of lightweight plastic, it was a heavy old thing but quiet and it remained in our family for 23 years - without anything having to be replaced other than the filters on board and the dust bag. To me, that was one of the "well made," vacuums.


The caliber of the plastic doesn't have so much to do with it as the LONGEVITY if used in accordance to the intended use, how long the motor lasts, and the quality design. A well MADE vacuum to me is build quality - though again, if the plastic LASTED for 23 years and didn't crack under normal use, then obviously it's a quality material, though of course design can go a long ways. So I guess the two factors are kind of related, however as a WHOLE I would say if the machine lasted - motor, housing, hinges, wheels, most components for a good 10 or more years, I would say it's a well made vacuum.
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Anybody ever heard of "Morphy Richards" vacuums?
Reply #15   Jul 7, 2010 7:45 am
Hertz wrote:
The caliber of the plastic doesn't have so much to do with it as the LONGEVITY if used in accordance to the intended use, how long the motor lasts, and the quality design. A well MADE vacuum to me is build quality - though again, if the plastic LASTED for 23 years and didn't crack under normal use, then obviously it's a quality material, though of course design can go a long ways. So I guess the two factors are kind of related, however as a WHOLE I would say if the machine lasted - motor, housing, hinges, wheels, most components for a good 10 or more years, I would say it's a well made vacuum.

So what models do you own that are 10 years old or more?
Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Anybody ever heard of "Morphy Richards" vacuums?
Reply #16   Jul 7, 2010 8:01 am
vacmanuk wrote:
So what models do you own that are 10 years old or more?


A Kirby Heritage II, Kirby G4 (rebuilt by me and a buddy of mine for NINE hours straight! Bought it in good working condition w/ nearly all attachments for TWENTY FIVE dollars! From a young 14 year old (I believe was the age) kid who happens to be passionate about such products, as well) Electrolux Silverado rebuilt by me and me alone, and a FilterQueen D 31X. GORGEOUS products all of them, but alas you just can't beat the A.) Suction power, B.) Design, C.) Filtration, and D.) Useability of these newer *HIGH* end brands like Miele and Sebo. What about you my man? YOUR TURN! Haha.
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