Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

WOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TysTMPWm9s0&feature=related Also, Sir James Dyson is hiring *350* new engineers IN THE UK at his main base in Malmesbury. http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/apr/26/dyson-recruit-350-engineers PRETTY SWEET :D

Other vacuums in addition to a dyson can do the same.   As impressive as it seems to you/others it has no bearing on how well it performs as a vacuum.  For example, if a dyson DC11 were used, it would do the same thing: Lift the car.  Why?  It has more A/W than the dyson cann used for the car lift trick.  The DC11 was pulled off USA shelves in 5 months and entirely from the USA market in 9 months.  Why?  All dyson retailers in the USA, including BEST BUY stores, refused to sell any more of the DC11 canns because of the high return rates.

Carmine D.

Hertz wrote:

It's a shame I didn't see this last week I had to vacuum up a toyota from my livingroom rug.

That's shocking - a variation of the bowling ball trick, using a car? Presented for entertainment purposes? I'm sure Dyson would secretly be pleased by the representation, but that's incredibly loose morals for a TV show.

Lucky1 - yeah, the Eureka VibraGroomers are especially good on Toyotas. I think this is more for the "WOW" factor though to show people - because it's a science-oriented show it seems - that vacuums are more powerful than they appear. How and WHY does this trick work? I mean, my Electrolux Silverado has trouble holding like 20 lbs (maybe 25) to it's nozzle. Is it the surface area? What?

M00seUK wrote:

"That's shocking - a variation of the bowling ball trick, using a car? Presented for entertainment purposes? I'm sure Dyson would secretly be pleased by the representation, but that's incredibly loose morals for a TV show."

Must have been filmed in Las Vegas.  BTW, similar industry trick done with refrigerator in the past.

Carmine D.

the ristenbatt web site has a nice explanation of the physics behind the trick.

http://www.ristenbatt.com/lift_per.mv

Severus wrote:

Thanks SEVERUS.

Carmine D.

A Volkswagen Beetle filled with 400lbs of steel $#%* (just like the Lux demo ones) was lifted by a Heritage II in 1986
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yczxUJLPhkg

  Over the yearts I have seen cars, refridgerators, and the old 16 pound bowling ball being picked up.  When an ad shows a 16 pound bowling ball picked up by a little vacuum motor to remove air from food saver bags ,you know they will find someone that will say that is one powerful motor.  In 1967 or1968 Eureka came out with their vacuum cleaner on TV and picked up a 16 pound bowling ball in the air in a clear tube . It was approximately 3-4 inches off the ground and had maybe 2 feet of space above it. It was suspended in the air, not sealed suction.  Electrolux ,at the time owned by Consolidated Foods (Sara Lee now)  got 100 housewives together and had them go into the plant and pick machines off the line for testing. One of the test performed in front of them was the cleaners picking up 4 16 pound bowling $#%* up and having them suspendeded in the air. Today they have them picking up 5 16 pound bowling $#%*. I do not say Aerus is the only one that will do this but I have seen other machines that couldn't.  This pickup of bowling $#%* is not advertised to say how powerful the cleaners are. I have a picture of the ball pickup and will put it on when I figure out how to d o it.

procare wrote:
Procare,

Remember the 3200 hundred dollar central vacuum bowling bolz display??????

Trebor wrote:

Thanks Trebor, I forgot about that one.  So..........the TV car lift using a dyson is a copy of Kirby Heritage 11.  Not even original! 

Carmine D.

PS: The lead white coat scientist in the VW lift, Mr. Baird:  Where have you heard that name used before?

Carmine,

Tom Baird left the Kirby company to form Bairdmeter INC. He sold the suction tester nozzle plates for the Kirby demo, as well as the dirt meter, (single and stackable,) The cloth tube with the black cloths held in place with a round spring was called a 'Baird' meter. He also sold the airflow meter that went on the front of the Kirby to show airflow, and could be used to ' kill' canister vacuums by showing decreased airflow as the distance between the cleaner and working hose end increased. Because he dealt with the distributors directly he made a lot of money to the consternation of the Kirby company.  It was the distributors who told Kirby to leave Tom Baird alone if they wanted to keep their distributor netwwork, because KIrby was not interested in making demo equipment, not really.

I heard that Baidrmeter had also bought out Tom Butz, the maker of formula. I also heard that Kirby bought out Tom Baird's widow. I have no idea if any of the products Baird manufactured are still produced by Kirby today. I cannot find Bairdmeter, or Formula on the net

Regards,

Trebor

Trebor wrote:

Trebor:  You da Man!

Carmine D.

Trebor:  You da Man!
Carmine D.

To quote Robin Williams as Andrew in 'Bicentennial Man'

"One is glad to be of service, sir!"

It is not often that I am able to supply some tidbit of information outside the scope of your vast knowledge.  It is my sincere wish that we will meet in person while we both  still walk this earth. You have always been the consummate gentleman in print, and I have no doubt you are the same in person, and so, backatcha, Carmine, "YOU da man!"

Trebor

Trebor wrote:

I try to emulate you! 

Carmine D.

Ah, Carmine,
To be witty, kind, and self-effacing all at once is truly a gift.
Thank you. You are an inspiration.

Trebor

Trebor wrote:

I try hard.  Thank you.

Carmine D.

Trebor wrote:

CarmineD wrote:

You have been very successful at part of it.

HARDSELL wrote:

Thank you.  God rewards the effort, not the result!

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

All that effort to accomplish the success I referred to creates a foul smell.

HARDSELL wrote:

Perhaps it's a result of where you put your nose!

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote: CarmineD wrote:
Carmine, ROFLMAO!

They never learn! To engage one's opponent in a battle of wits requires adequate skill and sufficient ammunition.  Your most recent opponent apparently has left the battlefield. In his case, discretion is the better part of valor

Regards,

Trebor

Trebor wrote:

CarmineD wrote:

I haven't left the battlefield.  Just moved upwind for fresher air.

HARDSELL wrote:

Also called retreat.............

Carmine D.

Trebor wrote:

As a student/master of dialectic its a joy to see the exact moment an opponent's argument falls apart.

Now tis best to get back to a discussion of vacuums else Mike W will cancel my WSJ subscription.   

Carmine D.