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Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Dysons filtration?
Original Message   Feb 10, 2010 12:46 pm
How sealed are Dysons? And how good is their filtration? I know the uprights - at least the older, older ones like the DC07 and such might have potential problems with sealing, such as show in this video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ However there could simply be something wrong w/ that one, who knows. BUT ANYWAYS, are the NEWER uprights COMPLETELY sealed? What about their canisters, such as the DC22, 23? Like does any air blow out of the cord reel or such, or ONLY out of the exhaust where it's SUPPOSED to come out from?
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vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #142   Apr 19, 2010 2:46 pm
Severus wrote:
Certainly both individuals and organizations can provide useful information.   Hopefully we're capable of weighing each one appropriately in making a final decision.   Judging by your comments, am I to assume that you don't place much trust in the results of Which? and the British Allergy Foundation?

In all honesty, it's not always easy to know who to trust for information.   If you placed one cup of dirt in both a Dyson (or any bagless dirt canister) and a cup of identical waste in the bag of a bagged vacuum, turned on each vacuum for 1 minute to rearrange the dirt, and then asked consumers to tell you which picked up more dirt, I suspect that 90% would say that the bagless did - just due to how the dirt is presented.   

No I'm not a fan of British Allergy Foundation because many years ago I wrote to them on numerous occassions asking them how they could endorse Dyson vacuums based on the fact that once they get emptied dust flies out. Their reply was that the companies like Dyson pay the BAF for their name. It's a simple as that. I'm dubious when it comes to companies like BAF after replies like that!
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #143   Apr 19, 2010 2:51 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
No I'm not a fan of British Allergy Foundation because many years ago I wrote to them on numerous occassions asking them how they could endorse Dyson vacuums based on the fact that once they get emptied dust flies out. Their reply was that the companies like Dyson pay the BAF for their name. It's a simple as that. I'm dubious when it comes to companies like BAF after replies like that!



Sounds a lot like acquiring Good Housekeeping magazine's seal of approval here.  Don't know if the mag is still in existence but it appeared pretty free with its commendations.

Venson

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #144   Apr 19, 2010 9:28 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Retardturtle,

Between Carmine, Mole, Venson (aka Severus), Procare and Lucky I’d say they have about 150-175 years of vacuum cleaner understanding and history between them.  Over and over they want to tell stories of how the Dyson is leaking dust on the suction side (upstream of the suction motor) and they want others to believe it. - And now you’re doing the same.  I say it’s an old con and boldface lie.  Why not help your cohorts and shoot video demonstrating this anomaly…  dust leaking (dust exhausting/being blown from the suction side) into a home or into someone’s lungs.  And good luck, cause you’ll need it…  it’s akin to pushin rope.

This message was modified Apr 20, 2010 by retardturtle1
retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #145   Apr 20, 2010 1:01 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Retardturtle,

Between Carmine, Mole, Venson (aka Severus), Procare and Lucky I’d say they have about 150-175 years of vacuum cleaner understanding and history between them.  Over and over they want to tell stories of how the Dyson is leaking dust on the suction side (upstream of the suction motor) and they want others to believe it. - And now you’re doing the same.  I say it’s an old con and boldface lie.  Why not help your cohorts and shoot video demonstrating this anomaly…  dust leaking (dust exhausting/being blown from the suction side) into a home or into someone’s lungs.  And good luck, cause you’ll need it…  it’s akin to pushin rope.

This message was modified Apr 20, 2010 by retardturtle1
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #146   Apr 20, 2010 7:17 am
Venson wrote:
Sounds a lot like acquiring Good Housekeeping magazine's seal of approval here.  Don't know if the mag is still in existence but it appeared pretty free with its commendations.

Venson



Hello Venson:

Still in business and uses a GH guarantee to replace any products with its approval seal if customers have a problem and bring to GH's attention.  Not sure the time period.  1-2 years I think.  The guarantee is explained in each monthly edition. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #147   Apr 20, 2010 7:20 am
vacmanuk wrote:
No I'm not a fan of British Allergy Foundation because many years ago I wrote to them on numerous occassions asking them how they could endorse Dyson vacuums based on the fact that once they get emptied dust flies out. Their reply was that the companies like Dyson pay the BAF for their name. It's a simple as that. I'm dubious when it comes to companies like BAF after replies like that!


The question/answer is can a entity which charges for its seal, assuming it still does and you are correct, still provide a valuable service to consumers.  They have to survive to stay in business.  Charging is a way.  Is it for the approval?  Is it for the testing to deem worthy?  Both?   Probably the latter.  If the product meets minimal standards it's deemed worthy.  If it is so bad, I suspect rather than diminish the value of the seal, especially for other paying product brands who will pull their membership, the entity would refund the money and say sorry.

Carmine D.

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retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #148   Apr 20, 2010 1:32 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
MM just look for yourself when dust statically clings to the outer side of the acrylic bin once it has been emptied!

To be fair guys we can go on and on about Dyson filtration until the cows come home and who said what and who is incorrect. End of the day Dysons and any other bagless cyclonic just isn't healthy. I've raised this issue before and I'll say it again - bags are healthier even if they do clog up and if the medical profession such as surgeries and hospitals still use vacuums with bags then there's something in that use (surely it costs more?) alone to why bagged vacuums are better, and even if buyers have to buy bags, they still have to buy drive belts for other Dyson models or anything else that happens to go wrong with it.


excellent point.......it all goes in the bag where it belongs ..keeping filters clean ....to filter.  if its the hospital standard...then its  great for in home use.

Good quality bags and filters makes for an unbeatable clean....cant get any better than that.

turtle

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #149   Apr 20, 2010 2:38 pm
CarmineD wrote:
The question/answer is can a entity which charges for its seal, assuming it still does and you are correct, still provide a valuable service to consumers.  They have to survive to stay in business.  Charging is a way.  Is it for the approval?  Is it for the testing to deem worthy?  Both?   Probably the latter.  If the product meets minimal standards it's deemed worthy.  If it is so bad, I suspect rather than diminish the value of the seal, especially for other paying product brands who will pull their membership, the entity would refund the money and say sorry.

Carmine D.


Hi Carmine

Id like to see some long term tests....say a couple of years [2 and 5] down the road. Give the vac to a fam. of 4....in your avg home, [with annual service/maint ] then do the

same rigorous testing that was done when it was new.....i would think this would answer alot of questions/solve problems on overall

performance and build quality...how sealed is the hepa system now...or the vacuum itself....i without a doubt believe a bagged vacuum will outperform/ filter and 

 prove itself to be more durable than any bagless [of equal value] across the board...... several years down the road in uncontrolled real life  enviorments...those that

have proven themselves would recieve ...say the'  ULTRA platinum seal of appvl from  the CRI-BAF-CR-ect.

turtle

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #150   Apr 20, 2010 5:56 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
Hi Carmine

Id like to see some long term tests....say a couple of years [2 and 5] down the road. Give the vac to a fam. of 4....in your avg home, [with annual service/maint ] then do the

same rigorous testing that was done when it was new.....i would think this would answer alot of questions/solve problems on overall

performance and build quality...how sealed is the hepa system now...or the vacuum itself....i without a doubt believe a bagged vacuum will outperform/ filter and 

 prove itself to be more durable than any bagless [of equal value] across the board...... several years down the road in uncontrolled real life  enviorments...those that

have proven themselves would recieve ...say the'  ULTRA platinum seal of appvl from  the CRI-BAF-CR-ect.

turtle


What is included in the annual service and what does it cost?
retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #151   Apr 20, 2010 6:44 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
What is included in the annual service and what does it cost?


Repair/replace whats  broke/broken...new belts, bag ,filters, clean out roller bearings ..check out  motor, take body apart and wash inside and out

...polish up the outside. keep it looking and running as good as the day you bought from us.....3yrs top to bottom coverage 5 yrs motor....min.

 on any and all vacs bought from us......if you buy elswhere and bring to us its 29.99  for our outstanding full service perfomed by yours truely.

anything worth keeping is worth the maint......no matter what you have or who made it.

turtle

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