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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #111 Apr 17, 2010 8:47 am |
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MM just look for yourself when dust statically clings to the outer side of the acrylic bin once it has been emptied!
To be fair guys we can go on and on about Dyson filtration until the cows come home and who said what and who is incorrect. End of the day Dysons and any other bagless cyclonic just isn't healthy. I've raised this issue before and I'll say it again - bags are healthier even if they do clog up and if the medical profession such as surgeries and hospitals still use vacuums with bags then there's something in that use (surely it costs more?) alone to why bagged vacuums are better, and even if buyers have to buy bags, they still have to buy drive belts for other Dyson models or anything else that happens to go wrong with it.
Add too the dyson multi-cyclones are not as effective for filtering fine dirt as paper bags. Dyson braggarts claimed otherwise. Better than bags. Health issues aside for a moment, although I agree with you and they are important, the shortcomings of bagless cyclones, dyson included, is their inferior vacuum operation/performance. To me, this is the issue of importance.
Sir James, and his followers, took HOOVER execs on for passing on/over dyson's multi-cyclones. Even in written product literature included along with new dysons. The reason, we were lead to believe by Sir James and his fans, was the vested interest HOOVER and other vacuum makers had in profiting from the sale of bags. Was this true? No. But it helped sell dysons, at least initially. The truth is bags are better performers for filtration than bagless. Period. End of story. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #112 Apr 17, 2010 9:00 am |
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The seals that leak are on the sides of the machine on the tubes that run up to the bin there is one on each side,After a while they dry rot from the heat generated by the machine and the dirt blowing at them. Do you know what VITON is??? Or maybe the one that runs up the side of the brushbar housing you know the clear one thats so cheap after 2 years sand blows thru it. How come the dc18 baby ball sticks to the carpet and does not turn like Sir Jimmy says it should? The machine is nothing but an overpriced, bagless panasonic, And i like and sell panasonic also And an 99.00 panasonicMC-Ug 581 will last and perform the same way for 5 to 7 years, with a belt and secondary filter change once a year. Please take your nonsense over the dyson only forum. Thanks MOLE
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454
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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #119 Apr 17, 2010 9:44 am |
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If at first you don't succeed, try, try again . . .
Actually I believe I gave a splendid example/s. Gasko could be giving the worst advice in the world and yet he had (I’ve not looked an quite a while) a following 100-200 times greater than the rare consumer who’s dared to show their face here seeking advice on anything. Numbers don’t lie, when two vacuum dealers are freely giving advice online and one is ignored and one is sought out. That’s enough proof for me (and for most). Carmine, and others blasted the Abby newbie when he had the audacity to post his liking for the DC26. He posted once, was blasted (or topic blasted) and left. Again, Model2 was chased out and the guy had 100,000 views just on his DC24 Youtube video. Carmine, Mole, Procare, Lucky1, Retardturtle and even Venson/Severus use this site as a anti-Dyosn platform for two primary reasons… lie of Dyson (for sport) and to lie of Dyson (for profit). Any outsider reading these boldface lies and attacks on Dyson no-doubt stays away. Do you think Carmine, Mole, Lucky1, Procare, Retardturtle and/or Venson/Severus can prove that Dyson vacuums leak dust (blow dust) from the suction/upstream side? I don’t. |
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DIB I don't see numbers meaning much in this case at all. The web is full of of people with high hit counts that give all kinds of advice. Whether the world is better for it has yet to be determined. What's called for in choosing a vacuum is clear knowledge of one's needs and plain facts.
By the way, what's a 100,000 web hits worth? Per the U.S. World and Population Clocks ( http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html ) we have about 309,000,000 inhabitants in a country where individual CD sales are not considered even fair to middling until well past the 500,000 peices mark. Speaking percentages, the 100,000 hits does not appear phenomenal.
No, personally I do not care much for Dyson and never did. I remain not much impressed with its performance and have owned bagless vacs that pleased me more whatever they may have or may have not borrowed technologically. Neither do I like Dyson's design or attachment set up – and never will.
Still I have no reason to lie and there is nothing I stand to gain by doing so. Yes, I have my ambitions and it's my hope that any advice I may have given here has been constructively helpful to all those asking but I have not received or been offered remuneration by any vac manufacturer or kindred business entity. No way in the least do I presume I've scored any points even with vac makers I often speak well of. AND – not a soul has sent me any freebies for all my yakking. My conscience is clear.
My opinions are pretty even handed and, I believe, well-founded not by number quotes but by use of more brands and machines than I can count and the experience that comes from that. If I said Dyson is over-priced I have also said that Miele, Aerus and any number of other vac manufacturers have gone way overboard on their pricing in consideration of what's being offered. I've followed suit regarding issues of performance and design.
It's foolish to harp on one specific brand as there has been no be all, end all vacuum cleaner yet made. Vacuum buyers are inundated with insignificant and confusing numbers -- amps, watts, air watts, microns, range – to leave them too stunned for a clear view of the really big numbers on price tags.
People looking for decent vacuums don't need to play number or name games. They need sound advice as to what vacuum may best provide good performance, reasonably easy use and durability per the individual budget and living situation.
Whether Dyson leaks or not is not much in my concern. Whatever the case, if someone feels they have to have a Dyson that's fine by me too. It's better to buy whatever vacuum you feel you like enough to use frequently. That will help keep flooring and furniture in your home looking better and lasting longer. We've been telling you that all along but I guess you don't believe us. Not my problem.
Venson Venson, Never mind the numbers (big numbers)... that's funny.
This message was modified Apr 17, 2010 by DysonInventsBig
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #120 Apr 17, 2010 12:15 pm |
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DIB wrote: Venson,
Never mind the numbers (big numbers)... that is so funny. I guess, low numbers is something your accustomed to.
Hiya DIB, Paris Hilton's site gets lots of hits but the value in that is also dubious. How low or high numbers are is a matter of interpretation or spin -- ask the guys in big finance. I think 100,000 of anything stands for a lot but may not mean anything when the issues of volume and actual worth are brought to the table. It also takes more than one individual's "say-so" to prove that. You given no proper stats as to what these numbers represent or amount to on the money end. How many additional and actual Dyson sales did the 100,000 hits lead to? By the way, you make me laugh too but I wish you did less at your expense. Venson . |
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