Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

I have stated that Dysons leak as well as other bagless vacs. It may not be as bad as others but it does. The Dyson machines have continually got less power in airwatts than they did at the start. DC-07 274 Air Watts Power and come down since.The facts on power come from Dyson. In looking at the warranty for 5 years the customer should know wear items are not covered. Such as the so called lifetime filter, brushroll, belt carbon brushes in the motor or anything else that wears out. That is an awful lot of things not covered. Commercial use is definitely out. One other upright had a clutch system for it's belts and that was the first Electrolux upright (Now Aerus) back in the1974-1984 time period. I sold many of them and never had a problem with them. They were a magnetic clutch and the belts were cogged belts. Never replaced a one during the life of the ones sold. I just replaced brushrolls and brushroll bearings. Dyson in your book may be your cleaner of choice but my working on them and /or going against them in demoes, I choose the bagged vacuum anyday.

How sealed are Dysons? And how good is their filtration? I know the uprights - at least the older, older ones like the DC07 and such might have potential problems with sealing, such as show in this video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ However there could simply be something wrong w/ that one, who knows. BUT ANYWAYS, are the NEWER uprights COMPLETELY sealed? What about their canisters, such as the DC22, 23? Like does any air blow out of the cord reel or such, or ONLY out of the exhaust where it's SUPPOSED to come out from?

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Who ever claimed that the upright leaked on the suction side.I think Dubber spun it into that.We all know that they leak  thru the cyclones and into the lifetime hepa filter,

Just look for yourself and see how the dust bin rocks side to side when mounted into the reciever.


MOLE

MM just look for yourself when dust statically clings to the outer side of the acrylic bin once it has been emptied!

To be fair guys we can go on and on about Dyson filtration until the cows come home and who said what and who is incorrect. End of the day Dysons and any other bagless cyclonic just isn't healthy. I've raised this issue before and I'll say it again - bags are healthier even if they do clog up and if the medical profession such as surgeries and hospitals still use vacuums with bags then there's something in that use (surely it costs more?) alone to why bagged vacuums are better, and even if buyers have to buy bags, they still have to buy drive belts for other Dyson models or anything else that happens to go wrong with it.

The seals that leak are on the sides of the machine on the tubes that run up to the bin there is one on each side,After a while they dry rot from the heat generated by the machine and the dirt blowing at them. Do you know what VITON is???

Or maybe the one that runs up the side of the brushbar housing you know the clear one thats so cheap  after 2 years sand blows thru it.

How come the dc18 baby ball sticks to the carpet and does not turn like Sir Jimmy says it should?

The machine is nothing but an overpriced, bagless panasonic, And i like and sell panasonic also And an 99.00 panasonicMC-Ug 581 will last and perform the same way for 5 to 7 years, with a belt and secondary filter change once a year.

Please take your  nonsense over the dyson only forum.

Thanks

MOLE

OK I'll admit I only scanned this thread but I don't know of 1 bagless system that is a sealed system. Can you even make a bagless into a sealed system. It would take a ton of screws and much better seals that's for sure.

Unless you have a medical condition, it's irrelevant.  The moment you open the bagless canister dust will be released.    If you have no breathing problems emptying a Dyson canister, then you have no need to worry about whether the machine is completely sealed.   Completely sealed vacuums are for people with serious allergies and/or money to burn.   If you have serious allergies then you need a bagged vacuum like a Miele.  For the rest of us, it's overkill.  Do you wear a dust mask when you walk outside? 

Dysons are NOT completely sealed.   The Dyson are what they are.  Most Dyson uprights, according to Consumer Reports, are very good vacuums - just like the other 30 or so vacuums that score at least 60 out of 100 points.  There's no need to pretend that They're something that they're not. 

See it just doesn't matter - if its bagless despite any brand including Dyson, it will always prove to be a health hazard.

Yet again Dib your argument about choking bags is flawed - if they contain dust in the first place then they aren't harming the lungs as much as Dyson or any other bin that requires secondary cleaning on the filters. And that's before you even touch the pre and after motor filters that are caked in dust on many bagless vacs. Just because you can't see the dust doesnt mean it's not airborne the moment a bagless cyclonic dust bin has been opened.

No Dubber, Procare is right,after 4 months the spine behind the dust bin is filthy due to the seals ,but so wasnt a REGINA brooms except they only costed 20 bucks