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Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199
Dysons filtration?
Original Message   Feb 10, 2010 12:46 pm
How sealed are Dysons? And how good is their filtration? I know the uprights - at least the older, older ones like the DC07 and such might have potential problems with sealing, such as show in this video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ However there could simply be something wrong w/ that one, who knows. BUT ANYWAYS, are the NEWER uprights COMPLETELY sealed? What about their canisters, such as the DC22, 23? Like does any air blow out of the cord reel or such, or ONLY out of the exhaust where it's SUPPOSED to come out from?
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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293
Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #88   Apr 14, 2010 9:02 pm
Hertz wrote:
I can agree that the brush bars and clutches were overall simply decent quality - and low quality given the price - but aside from that they are great machines. However, I find your claim that they will be "run out of dodge" highly amusing considering they're still doing GREAT even in this economy; Dyson isn't going anywhere anytime soon buddy.



Hertz, Carmine has preached gloom and doom for Dyson for years.  Each new Hoover was to be the demise of Dyson.  The Hoover "Z' was to be the vacuum of all vacs.  Carmine bought one and gifted it away in short time.  They are still available in the salvage/junk stores and only slightly used.  Dyson is going strong and Hoover failed.

Dyson cost Carmine a lot of embarrasment a few years back and he has a vendetta to destroy them.
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162
Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #89   Apr 14, 2010 10:35 pm
Oh How I laughed!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEKv3R6M1k4
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900
Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #90   Apr 15, 2010 4:14 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Oh How I laughed!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEKv3R6M1k4


Thanks vacmanuk.  That's about how it goes.  "I buy it, bring it, home and then I have to push it too?"

Best,

Venson
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894
Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #91   Apr 15, 2010 6:54 am
HARDSELL wrote:
One such as yourself could (and soes) argue with a biased opinion.  Of course using your logic Orecks are a POS because I found two to be very very inferior to the DC07.



ORECK has made and marketed the same variation on the theme for over 45 years.  The DC07 is discontinued in less than 4 years.  Soon the DC14.  Why?

Carmine D.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894
Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #92   Apr 15, 2010 7:02 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Hertz, Carmine has preached gloom and doom for Dyson for years.  Each new Hoover was to be the demise of Dyson.  The Hoover "Z' was to be the vacuum of all vacs.  Carmine bought one and gifted it away in short time.  They are still available in the salvage/junk stores and only slightly used.  Dyson is going strong and Hoover failed.

Dyson cost Carmine a lot of embarrasment a few years back and he has a vendetta to destroy them.



Like the dyson DC11 for $500?  You're right that I predicted it would die an ignoble death and be pulled from the USA retailers' shelves.  It was.  Just like DC07 now and soon the DC14. 

Actually I bought, used and gifted away 2 HOOVER Z's.  Both are still in use.  One in a commercial venue has been performing well since November 2007.  It's had one service in the all the time.  Simple and easy to work on.  Many of its features are now in regular use on other vacuums in the industry. 

Carmine D.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894
Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #93   Apr 15, 2010 7:04 am
CarmineD wrote:
As I understand these are the facts and circumstances that brought down dyson's mantra: Never clogs, never loses suction.
  • A 2006/07 ruling by the ASA [Advertising Standards Agency].  
  • About 3 dozen disgruntled dyson buyers/users, maybe more, joined by 2 vacuum companies filed a class action grievance against dyson. 
  • The crux of their grievance was that dyson vacuum filters clogged and the vacuums lost suction, contrary to dyson's printed claims to the contrary. 
  • The ASA, a European adjudication body for consumers and manufacturers/their products, agreed with dyson buyers and users and the vacuum companies. 
  • In its decision to Sir James and dyson, the ASA advised dyson under penalty of legal actions for non-comformance, to cease and desist from using the mantra in written format. 
  • Sir James and dyson complied.  
  • The dyson claims went away. 
  • In addition, dyson reduced the time periods for required filter maintenance from 6-9 months to 2-3 months on future models. 
  • Dyson also made its 5 year limited warranty contingent on users following the new filter service/maintenance instructions.

Carmine D.



HS:

What are your comments on this? 

Carmine D.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894
Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #94   Apr 15, 2010 7:11 am
Venson wrote:
Thanks vacmanuk.  That's about how it goes.  "I buy it, bring it, home and then I have to push it too?"

Best,

Venson



Looks like Bett got the ORECK knack, just like my dear Wife.

Carmine D.
Lucky1


Joined: Jan 2, 2008
Points: 271
Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #95   Apr 15, 2010 10:57 am
vacmanuk wrote:
How much are particle meters anyway? The thing is despite a particle meter being used, you'd have to do it in controlled areas that aren't polluted and even Miele's fan man on You Tube's particle meter picks up a lot of dust in his shop at times before his meter bit is put at the vent of the active/HEPA filter exhausts on the Miele.


Particle counters vary much in range from $1,600-$5,000 You don't need a controlled area to get a good idea if a system leaks or not as the meter will give a reading and if that reading rises you know there is exhaust. I have personally used one on a HEPA installed Miele and can report that the meter reads ZERO same with IQ Air's Air Purifiers. I have not used it on a Dyson but I have never seen or heard of one that WAS tested that does not leak. Miele does not claim a zero reading with the Air Clean Filter.
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162
Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #96   Apr 15, 2010 12:28 pm
CarmineD wrote:
ORECK has made and marketed the same variation on the theme for over 45 years.  The DC07 is discontinued in less than 4 years.  Soon the DC14.  Why?

Carmine D.


Sorry Carmine but you can't compare Oreck with Dyson. Totally different vacuums. For a start the Dysons are all clean fan systems.
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162
Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #97   Apr 15, 2010 1:00 pm
Lucky1 wrote:
Particle counters vary much in range from $1,600-$5,000 You don't need a controlled area to get a good idea if a system leaks or not as the meter will give a reading and if that reading rises you know there is exhaust. I have personally used one on a HEPA installed Miele and can report that the meter reads ZERO same with IQ Air's Air Purifiers. I have not used it on a Dyson but I have never seen or heard of one that WAS tested that does not leak. Miele does not claim a zero reading with the Air Clean Filter.

Thanks for that info, Lucky! Im sure I read somewhere that the particle counters have to be done in a controlled environment. Anyone know roughly what a particle count is for the Air Clean filter?
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