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Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
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Dysons filtration?
Original Message   Feb 10, 2010 12:46 pm
How sealed are Dysons? And how good is their filtration? I know the uprights - at least the older, older ones like the DC07 and such might have potential problems with sealing, such as show in this video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ However there could simply be something wrong w/ that one, who knows. BUT ANYWAYS, are the NEWER uprights COMPLETELY sealed? What about their canisters, such as the DC22, 23? Like does any air blow out of the cord reel or such, or ONLY out of the exhaust where it's SUPPOSED to come out from?
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #51   Apr 13, 2010 12:59 pm
Dib-stir, I retired with 55 years in the business to a comfortable life in the Las Vegas blue skies and abundant sunshine.  What is your claim to business fame here and anywhere beside spewing the same old dyson how great thou art lines?  As I recall you bought your dyson DC15, no longer made and marketed, for $300 on clearance sale years ago. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Apr 13, 2010 by CarmineD
Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #52   Apr 13, 2010 1:07 pm
CarmineD wrote:
You asked the question here specifically about the DC07.  I answered you with personal and professional proof.  As have several others who are still active professionals in the industry.  If I [we] don't give you the answer you like and want, and that makes me [us] biased, then so be it.  I'm biased toward the truth.  As the saying goes, the truth hurts.

Carmine D.



No, you merely answered with text. That's not proof in the least. I'm telling you from MY experience that the Dyson seals are of GREAT quality and also letting you know how ridiculous it sounds for someone to mention that they will "dry rot." Foam dry rots, not rubber - at least not the kind Dyson seemingly uses. I'm telling YOU the truth that after multiple years of ownership of a DC17 by a family who uses it frequently (not mine, but a neighbors), and whom haven't even cleaned out the filter after a year or so until I told them about it - not ONE thing has gone wrong with it, it has seen abuse time and again - I even tried somewhat standing on it and it held up FINE, yes I knew that was kind of stupid considering it wasn't even mine, but I did it cautiously :P - and the seals and sole plate are still COMPLETELY intact. Again, I would just say you're biased, unless there's pictorial evidence of your claim.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #53   Apr 13, 2010 1:14 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Not so in the UK; the DC14 Origin and DC14 Overdrive are two of the best selling models. They are even on the UK website which shows only current Dyson models that are being sold nationwide.



Dyson USA has the DC14 All Floors for $399.  The real question is how many at that price does it sell.  Most retailers who still have these oldies in stock sell them at discounts below the dyson MAP.  An good indication that they are going the obsolete route to oblivion for all the reasons already provided. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #54   Apr 13, 2010 1:20 pm
Hertz wrote:
No, you merely answered with text. That's not proof in the least. I'm telling you from MY experience that the Dyson seals are of GREAT quality and also letting you know how ridiculous it sounds for someone to mention that they will "dry rot." Foam dry rots, not rubber - at least not the kind Dyson seemingly uses. I'm telling YOU the truth that after multiple years of ownership of a DC17 by a family who uses it frequently (not mine, but a neighbors), and whom haven't even cleaned out the filter after a year or so until I told them about it - not ONE thing has gone wrong with it, it has seen abuse time and again - I even tried somewhat standing on it and it held up FINE, yes I knew that was kind of stupid considering it wasn't even mine, but I did it cautiously :P - and the seals and sole plate are still COMPLETELY intact. Again, I would just say you're biased, unless there's pictorial evidence of your claim.


I answered you about the seals and gaskets on the DC07 and DC14.  Once I have proof on the DC17, I'll draw conclusions on it and, if asked, report on them just as I did for you.  I would hope and trust after the shortfalls with DC07 and DC14, dyson got better. I have no proof yet that is the case for the gaskets and seals on the DC17.  I know from personal and professional readings that the brush roll on DC17's are superior to DC07 and DC14.  Consumer Reports confirms this too for DC17 with its test ratings.  Dyson does not call its system sealed.  A claim I'm sure it would make if it could just as others in the industry who can and do.

I don't have pictorial proof.  So sorry.  But, if I did, I suspect you would be doubtful of its authenticity.  Just as you and Dib-stir are not taking seriously Jerry Ruben's Youtube video for dyson.  Which can easily be reproduced and not a hoax.  I recall years ago our Forum Moderator here saying that he sees dirt on the DC07's air in/outlet tubes [behind the dirt bin] based on viewings of various display models in big box stores.  How does it get there? Leakage?  If I'm wrong maybe Mike W. will correct me.  Please do.  

Carmine D.

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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #55   Apr 13, 2010 1:40 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Dib-stir, I retired with 55 years in the business to a comfortable life in the Las Vegas blue skies and abundant sunshine.  What is your claim to business fame here and anywhere beside spewing the same old dyson how great thou art lines?  As I recall you bought your dyson DC15, no longer made and marketed, for $300 on clearance sale years ago. 

Carmine D.


Carmine,

It's over!  You've given away many con’s ways and their trickery’s and thrown many of your cohort independent vacuum cleaner dealer con-buddies under the bus and you've outlived your usefulness.  Look around; no consumer wants to talk with you!  Where are they?  By comparison, go to the site Gasko use to participate in and the dude is an icon amongst the consumer.  The consumer is a lot wiser (self-educated) than your old-school days.  No-doubt you turned off many consumers to the site.  How do I know?  Gasko's numbers are probably 200 to 1 (for ever 1 consumer who comes here seeking you out, he had 200 that sought him out).  You've outlived your usefulness...  you’re livin in the past, retire already - it's over!


Dyson Invents Big




CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #56   Apr 13, 2010 1:44 pm
Dib-stir, you keep telling me to retire.  I am retired.  Have been for over 3 years.  And loving it.  You keep making the threads here personal and attacking me rather than the facts.  You are living in the past.  Tom Gasko works for RICCAR/SIMPLICITY and has for a year or more.  Not dyson.  How about you? 

Carmine D.

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mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #57   Apr 13, 2010 1:55 pm
Then if think so highly  of Tom ,why dont you go to work with him at TACONY.

Then you both can do oohs and ahhs and gaga over the vacuum collection that no one cares about.

BTW all this techno babble you and i spew about  cleaners means nothing to the avarage consumer,

What benefit does the product provide for the user that should be the foremost question.As long as the customer likes the machine thats all that matters.They dont care what we think about them.

I can hear aunt Tilly  rushing to the living room closet now because she just can't wait to clean her floors and scatter rugs.

Boy are you excited right about now Bonehead,

THE BEST CLEANER THAT A PERSON CAN USE IS THE ONE THEY CAN USE[GOT IT]'' GOOD.'''''

mole

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #58   Apr 13, 2010 2:07 pm
mole wrote:
Then if think so highly  of Tom ,why dont you go to work with him at TACONY.

Then you both can do oohs and ahhs and gaga over the vacuum collection that no one cares about.

BTW all this techno babble you and i spew about  cleaners means nothing to the avarage consumer,

What benefit does the product provide for the user that should be the foremost question.As long as the customer likes the machine thats all that matters.They dont care what we think about them.

I can hear aunt Tilly  rushing to the living room closet now because she just can't wait to clean her floors and scatter rugs.

Boy are you excited right about now Bonehead,

THE BEST CLEANER THAT A PERSON CAN USE IS THE ONE THEY CAN USE[GOT IT]'' GOOD.'''''

mole


Hello MOLE:

I agree with you that vintage vacuums do not rank very high on the average consumer's list of interest items.  I suspect the same is true for new vacuums too.  Persons are much more interested to learn and know that Consumer Reports just put the Lexus [as in toyota] SUV GX 300, approximate price of $52,000, on its don't buy list.  That's a news item of interest to consumers.  Also, although predictions of first day sales of Apple iPads would hit 700,000 worldwide, only 300,000 were sold.  American consumers find that newsworthy. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Apr 13, 2010 by CarmineD
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #59   Apr 13, 2010 2:22 pm
mole wrote:

. . . . THE BEST CLEANER THAT A PERSON CAN USE IS THE ONE THEY CAN USE . . .

mole



Thanks MOLE, that's really where it's at.  Bottom line, the larger part of Ameriican consumers and those elsewhere haven't a clue as to what they're buying -- or probbly even why -- when it comes to vacuum cleaners.  They either succumb to the dazzle of a sales pitch or an advetisement hypes, buy what their mom had or the neighbors have and, most likely, whatever fits the pocketbook. 

All they want is to have their expectations fulfilled -- namely clean lookng rugs and floors.  Whether by way of bags, no bags, cyclonics or even archaic methods, whatever -- as long as the dirt and lint vanish as they clean they've got no questions.  Their only ideal is acquiring such a miracle at the lowest price possible and life is great.

Including myself, there are those of us who get turned on by bells and whistles.  However, what is to be remembered is that simple tools, if properly made, can do the same work just as well.

Venson

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #60   Apr 13, 2010 2:27 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Dib-stir, you keep telling me to retire.  I am retired.  Have been for over 3 years.  And loving it.  You keep making the threads here personal and attacking me rather than the facts.  You are living in the past.  Tom Gasko works for RICCAR/SIMPLICITY and has for a year or more.  Not dyson.  How about you? 

Carmine D.

Carmine,

Retire means to move away from your old con-ways...  what your selling here... your lies - is simply a looser, a dog, a disaster.  There's no money in you.  You need to retire from conning and move out of the way and let more intelligent and honest people speak.  You represent what not to do in life...  lies don't pay much.  What's the temp in Vegas today?....  lows of minus 10 and highs of 100 plus.  You're personal life is a disaster cause you chose a disastrous career (lying to the trusting consumer and lying of good corporations - who employee people and many with families).  You and Venson need to either get a room together, or start sending private emails, or get your own blog.  Model2 ‘s YouTube numbers are explosive and where is he?  Just like Ms. Consumer coming here seeking your advice, he too avoids you.  I say, you go and watch the number of new visitors go up.  And take the other con-dealers with you.


You're done and the numbers support this.  I say, block your IP, welcome the intelligent vacuum guy or gal to advise and watch Abby’s numbers rise.


Dyson Invents Big




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