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Hertz


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Dysons filtration?
Original Message   Feb 10, 2010 12:46 pm
How sealed are Dysons? And how good is their filtration? I know the uprights - at least the older, older ones like the DC07 and such might have potential problems with sealing, such as show in this video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ However there could simply be something wrong w/ that one, who knows. BUT ANYWAYS, are the NEWER uprights COMPLETELY sealed? What about their canisters, such as the DC22, 23? Like does any air blow out of the cord reel or such, or ONLY out of the exhaust where it's SUPPOSED to come out from?
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CarmineD


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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #30   Feb 12, 2010 9:58 pm
Venson wrote:
Hi,

Is there a comprehensive guide as to acceptable to harmful levels of vacuum filtration? How many microns retained actually  constitute excellent, very good and good filtering service? CR's excellent to very good rating slots would cause me as a consumer to think there's little difference.  What does a micron or  two missed in the filtration process really mean to a serious dust allergy sufferer as opposed to machines that obviously don't contain dust well?

Venson



Hello Venson:

Vacuum emissions testing by CR has evolved over recent years.  In the late 90's CR's testing for emissions involved measuring the particle concentration in the air of a specially prepared room before and after vacuuming up wood flour from a medium-pile carpet.  CR was quick back then to note when and in which cases vacuums w/o HEPA ratings matched/bested emissions with models claiming HEPA.  More recently, CR measures the release of small particles from the vacuum during operation.  Not sure why CR made the emissions testing changes.  Current CR emission ratings seem to indicate parity among all brands and models with the vast majority of ratings ranging in very good and excellent, as you say.  10 years ago, CR vacuum emissions ran the gamut from poor to excellent with an average overall rating of good.   Not sure if vacuum emissions drastically improved during this time and/or the CR changes are making emissions distinctions harder to measure.  More likely both factors are working in concert. 

Carmine D.

Lucky1


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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #31   Feb 17, 2010 3:17 pm
OK I'll admit I only scanned this thread but I don't know of 1 bagless system that is a sealed system. Can you even make a bagless into a sealed system. It would take a ton of screws and much better seals that's for sure.
DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #32   Apr 12, 2010 4:45 am
procare wrote:
   Dyson as well as other bagless that have come in for repair have had leakage and don't completely seal. At first they will , then will eventually lose their seal. As evidenced by dust on the body and where the bin is sitting. The worst that I have seen in leakage was the Fantom while it was uot. Dyson is not as bad but does leak..

Tell me Einstein,

If a hole is drilled in the side of a Dyson clear bin or through the drop away lid, does it blow (exhaust dust into a room) or does it suck (dust into the vacuum)?

I say you’re full of$hit and a con.

The so-called dust you observe around the lid is residual dust after a bins contents are emptied and not wiped away.  When a Dyson is turned on the drop away door pulls inwardly (towards the suction motor) and any layperson reading this can observe this for his/herself.  The only leaking is me posting (leaking) how the con is done.

Could you name your money making brands here and on this public forum...    I'd like to rip them and their price points apart.
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mole


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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #33   Apr 12, 2010 7:00 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Tell me Einstein,

If a hole is drilled in the side of a Dyson clear bin or through the drop away lid, does it blow (exhaust dust into a room) or does it suck (dust into the vacuum)?

I say you’re full of$hit and a con.

The so-called dust you observe around the lid is residual dust after a bins contents are emptied and not wiped away.  When a Dyson is turned on the drop away door pulls inwardly (towards the suction motor) and any layperson reading this can observe this for his/herself.  The only leaking is me posting (leaking) how the con is done.

Could you name your money making brands here and on this public forum...    I'd like to rip them and their price points apart.

No Dubber, Procare is right,after 4 months the spine behind the dust bin is filthy due to the seals ,but so wasnt a REGINA brooms except they only costed 20 bucks
CarmineD


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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #34   Apr 12, 2010 8:10 am
mole wrote:
No Dubber, Procare is right,after 4 months the spine behind the dust bin is filthy due to the seals ,but so wasnt a REGINA brooms except they only costed 20 bucks


While I got the bulk of the dirt out of the pet smelly DC07 cyclones, I could not get all out [year 3 of a 5 year warranty].  Just doesn't lend itself to allow for a total cleaning.  Worse designed bagless in the industry because the cyclones can't be thoroughly cleaned of its dust and dirt.  No doubt the reason it is discontinued and the filter cleaning maintenance schedules reduced in half on all future dyson models.

Carmine D.

PS:  Is it still the case that a new cyclone assembly in the DC07 and DC14 runs about $100?

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DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #35   Apr 12, 2010 1:47 pm
mole wrote:
No Dubber, Procare is right,after 4 months the spine behind the dust bin is filthy due to the seals ,but so wasnt a REGINA brooms except they only costed 20 bucks

Troll,

You’ve been posting here for years and you’ve yet to name your vac’s and price points.  Turn-a-bout is fair play….  I’m confident I can make your vac’s look ancient (cause they are) and price points look idiotic (cause they are).

Here is how your con works…  when the user empties the bins contents and does not wipe away any dust from the outside of the drop away lid - this dust (very small amount) then migrates.  My Dyson's show zero dust migrating, cause wiping dust off the lid is fast n easy to do.   Dude, I know you’re a con and thank you for the opportunity to demonstrate it so (the majority of your industry as so).


It's not personal, it's just business.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #36   Apr 12, 2010 4:55 pm
Dib-stir for years you've never answered any questions about what exactly is your business here.  Always hiding behind: I don't cast my pearls among the swine.  Well, try a new tact: Tell the swine what you have to offer/do and let the swine decide if you have pearls of wisdom or just pebbles of sand.

Carmine D.

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mole


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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #37   Apr 12, 2010 4:58 pm
O.k. Dubber you asked for it,you want to talk about uprights,canister power nozzles,central vacuums,attachment kits, uprights with on board tools,bagged ,bagless,

central vacuum kits,airflow,bearings,cfm,cords and cordwinders, plasti flex,or flexaust hoses, the bore diameters,  electronic control boards.

I sell bosch formulas bsg71360 for 299.99 on line, stillmake a Cnote on it, MSRP is 499.00 . SO whats dyson got for 299.00  a refurbed dc07 from 01 with a 6 month warranty.

I also own a electrolux silverado from 1982 that cleans as good or better than anything out there today.

Bring it on ROOKIE.

MOLE

DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #38   Apr 12, 2010 5:25 pm
mole wrote:
O.k. Dubber you asked for it,you want to talk about uprights,canister power nozzles,central vacuums,attachment kits, uprights with on board tools,bagged ,bagless,

central vacuum kits,airflow,bearings,cfm,cords and cordwinders, plasti flex,or flexaust hoses, the bore diameters,  electronic control boards.

I sell bosch formulas bsg71360 for 299.99 on line, stillmake a Cnote on it, MSRP is 499.00 . SO whats dyson got for 299.00  a refurbed dc07 from 01 with a 6 month warranty.

I also own a electrolux silverado from 1982 that cleans as good or better than anything out there today.

Bring it on ROOKIE.

MOLE


Well lets see if you can help this rookie out...  where's the leak con-man?  I've decimated all your anti-Dyson riddles and cons in the past...  so where's this leak you speak of?  Or...  Why not give Procare a call and work the con out and then reply.

Rookie
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mole


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Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #39   Apr 12, 2010 5:46 pm
The seals that leak are on the sides of the machine on the tubes that run up to the bin there is one on each side,After a while they dry rot from the heat generated by the machine and the dirt blowing at them. Do you know what VITON is???

Or maybe the one that runs up the side of the brushbar housing you know the clear one thats so cheap  after 2 years sand blows thru it.

How come the dc18 baby ball sticks to the carpet and does not turn like Sir Jimmy says it should?

The machine is nothing but an overpriced, bagless panasonic, And i like and sell panasonic also And an 99.00 panasonicMC-Ug 581 will last and perform the same way for 5 to 7 years, with a belt and secondary filter change once a year.

Please take your  nonsense over the dyson only forum.

Thanks

MOLE

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