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ArtieV1


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"What has dyson invented now?"
Original Message   Oct 11, 2009 11:23 pm
I received this "teaser email today: http://links.mkt2388.com/ctt?kn=1&m=2735925&r=MTgwOTM1MTgzMTcS1&b=0&j=NzgxMTAyODMS1&mt=1&rt=0
Anyone know what's up with this??

-=Art=-
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Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #19   Oct 12, 2009 11:46 pm
I for one applaud Dyson for producing these things in the UK.   The trick is how do you apply this design to windmills.  The bladeless windmill would be a great idea to avoid the chopping up of birds.  Who knows, there might be a market for such things for parents of small children. 

If Dyson wants to make this a success, he's got to take his inventions on Oprah.  In fact, given the O shape of this fan, it could be the official Oprah fan. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
DysonInventsBig


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Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #20   Oct 13, 2009 12:31 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
You should complain to the owners of the site.

DIB

CarmineD wrote:
If Mike W. is true to his word here he'll let a little playtime for diversions as long as it doesn't go overboard.  It doesn't make me no never mind.  Whatever floats your dyson boat.  Fans, pencil sharpeners, washers, lights, hand driers, ball barrows.  All this fluff takes time money and effort away from the core vacuum business.  In good times, a company can get by with these diverse distractions.  In bad times, there is no 'play' money for the non-core products and businesses.  Do you see your brand advertising here lately?

Carmine D.


Just do what I do...  When I see your running at the mouth of nonsensical non-vacuum related (there’s plenty of it)....  I just tune you out.  Problem solved.


DIB
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CarmineD


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Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #21   Oct 13, 2009 7:02 am
M00seUK wrote:
I'll try be first to say it... $300! For 'a fan'


May I assist.  For a desk top fan!!!! 

Okay DIB, tune that out.  And tune out Severus, MOLE and Venson.  $300 for a bladeless desktop fan.  In the worse recession of modern history with no end in sight.  Just the invention that world needs.

BTW, I understand the role players in the clip are dyson employees who were stringed along on the launch too.  Hence the reactions.

Carmine D.

 

HARDSELL


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Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #22   Oct 13, 2009 7:52 am
Severus wrote:
I for one applaud Dyson for producing these things in the UK.   The trick is how do you apply this design to windmills.  The bladeless windmill would be a great idea to avoid the chopping up of birds.  Who knows, there might be a market for such things for parents of small children. 

If Dyson wants to make this a success, he's got to take his inventions on Oprah.  In fact, given the O shape of this fan, it could be the official Oprah fan. 



It is as overpriced as Oprah is overpaid.
CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #23   Oct 13, 2009 9:09 am
HARDSELL wrote:
It is as overpriced as Oprah is overpaid.


HS:

Pay toilet shuffle again.  All dyson products are overpriced.  Oprah gets what the market bears.  She's an entertainer.  Apple products get what the market bears.  It's the electronics gadgetry that define society's wiredness.  James fixes the prices on dyson vacuum and non-vacuum products.  No relevance to reality.  As turtle1 pointed out.  Dyson overprices to eliminate competition.  What he [James] doesn't get is that overpricing products eliminates sales.  Especially in hard economic times and non-essential wares [read vacuums and fans].

If, as you say, no vacuum is worth $600 when referring to dyson's products, then by logical deduction certainly no dyson desk fan is worth $300.  Not even in the fantasy land that inventor dyson lives.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #24   Oct 13, 2009 9:20 am
I'm curious if any of the posters here can answer whether dyson's newfangled fan made the Nordstrom's Christmas wish list of luxury gift giving.  A status symbol for the rich.  Anyone know?

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


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Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #25   Oct 13, 2009 9:37 am
Well I think its a great idea but it is a natural extension to what his Air blade hand dryer does, a fantastic machine if I do say so myself!
M00seUK


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Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #26   Oct 13, 2009 9:39 am
They are, at least, acknowledging that this will be far from a mass selling item in the UK. That's why James Dyson is in New York for the launch, which also coincides (I believe) with that start of summer in Australia.

Thinking back to a friend's sister who lives in LA, I'm sure she'd buy one of these with little consideration... well if her husband still has a job, that is. Certainly, many people will put up with a $20 fan that supplies 'choppy' air if means they have money to eat that week... yay, it would certainly been a better seller in the less responsible times.

A few years back I lived in an apartment, in London, which got incredibly hot in summer. I needed a fan, but I didn't want to spend too much on one, since it would likely only be required for a matter of weeks. I went to the supermarket and was pleased to be able to buy a free-standing pedestal fan for something like £15 GBP. The build quality and styling wasn't amazing, but hey, it did the job. One issue was that it was fairly noisy, so I needed to use ear plugs to get some sleep. Something that the Dyson goes some way toward resolving. But, again, if I can save £175 GBP by using ear plugs for a few weeks, I'm happy. Yep, it's certainly a much more viable product in a country which has warm weather most of the year.

The other sales angle is large workplaces, using fans in preference to air conditioning and the cost / environmental savings that can bring. James Dyson is said to be big fa... um, supporter of open windows and fresh air in the workplace... but hey, Dyson's building manager wouldn't have the same challenge of making 500 x £200 desk fans fit a budget. Perhaps they think there should be government environmental subsidy for this type of product? They've certainly developed an 'interesting' product, even if the commercial success is still to be determined.
DysonInventsBig


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Points: 1454

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #27   Oct 13, 2009 11:14 am
Dyson air multiplier video >
http://media.dyson.com/assets/press/videos/airMultiplierTech.wmv

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CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #28   Oct 13, 2009 12:03 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Well I think its a great idea but it is a natural extension to what his Air blade hand dryer does, a fantastic machine if I do say so myself!
M00seUK wrote:
They've certainly developed an 'interesting' product, even if the commercial success is still to be determined.


Guys:

The question with any product that is made for USA consumer consumption is:  Will it sell in Peoria?  This one won't sell in fantasy land in Peoria.  Not for $300.  It's like the Air Blade.  At $1400, its 2X and more than the price of the best hand drier on the market today.  After failing miserably with the commercial market, dyson tried the home consumprtion market.  No luck there either.  In fact worse results than the commercial market.  This Air Multiplier is no different than the Air Blade.  No different than the contra rotating washer.  The ball barrow.  And the ball dysons.  You can't invent for the sake of invention and then force consumers to like it and buy it.  Doesn't work that way in Peoria.

Carmine D.

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