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	The New Miele Upright Cleaner 
	Original Message   Mar 23, 2008 6:12 pm	 | 
	
		
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 First upright from Miele  |  |  29 February 2008
 
 This summer, Miele will launch its first range of upright vacuum cleaners – the S7.  It will consist of about six models, all of which feature ultra large dust bags and  “a unique swivel body, which makes it easy to manoeuvre in even the trickiest   of room layouts”. According to the company,  the decision was made following   numerous requests from customers that wanted to buy Miele  but would only use   an upright model. Text: courtesy ERTweekly.com Picture: courtesy Miele.co.uk, 2009 Edited 21st March 2009; reason: loss of original image.  |  
 
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	Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner 
	Reply #357   Mar 20, 2009 9:59 am	 | 
	
		
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  Catlady mentioned her vac shop carries the Simplicity line but didn't mention which model she tried.  From all I've read I wonder if the dealer was less about finding a suitable vacuum for the customer and more about getting rid of a tester vacuum before new stock arrived and would make it harder to sell. 
  Dusty Your comment about the hose replacement on the RICCAR Radiance made me laugh.  I don't know if you read this post of mine from yesterday .  It summarizes my thoughts and feelings about selling "test" models to customers. "For all the reasons already discussed here and elswhere on threads dealing with new product launches, I never sold a "test" model [read demo and display] to a customer.  Never.  I always recommended that the customer wait until the model was formally released by the brand maker.  I also refused to take orders for customers with deposits.  Even if customers were insistent, as some can often be.  Instead, I would advise when the new product order was expected, and told them to call/return if they were still interested.  No doubt, I lost some sales over 40 plus years.  But business is business and I ran mine my own way." Carmine D.  
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	Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner 
	Reply #359   Mar 20, 2009 11:06 am	 | 
	
		
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 . . . Dusty or anyone with a with S7s in stock, please take a look for verification's sake -- if you don't mind.
  Thanks
  Venson Hi guys, Confirmation accomplished.  I checked in with Miele again and per a short conversation with good old Jim I learned that the prototype hose hooks up basically the same as mine does.  HOWEVER -- Miele ships replacement hoses for the S7 complete meaning the swivel neck piece I mentioned came attached.  The guys who did the work probably did not realize that all they had to do was take the new swivel connection off as described and attach only the replacement hose. Best, Venson 
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	Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner 
	Reply #362   Mar 21, 2009 5:03 am	 | 
	
		
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 Tho I must admit that I was intrigued with Senator Grassley's advice to the banking industry employees who made off with the huge taxpayer funded bonuses.  He said and I paraphrase:  Do what the Japanese do, come bow your heads, ask for forgiveness, then go commit suicide.  Perhaps the Japanese hold themselves to a higher ethical and moral standard than the USA business leaders.  I wonder if the Honorable Senator would say and expect the same [Japanese] standard for his peers in Congress? Carmine D. 
  I understand the Hon. Senator has backed off.  Why?  Could it be that his cohorts Senators Dodd [Dem-Conn] and Reid [Dem-NV] snookered the US taxpayers by inserting the "AIG bonus clause" for 2008 in the Stimulus Bill at the 11th hour [Friday Feb 13] before passage?  Yes indeed.  [Sorry Mike for the non-vacuum point.  But maybe it applies here.  Before we indict, condemn, and set punishment, it behooves us to get the whole story].
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	Re: Update from today 
	Reply #365   Mar 21, 2009 11:32 am	 | 
	
		
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 I dropped the vacuum off at the Vac Shop.  I explained why I was there and showed them the damage to the back of the vacuum.  They showed me the replacement hose and tested my tools on it and they fit.  Then then told me to fix the damage they would heat the plastic and smooth it out.  I told them that was unacceptable and that I wanted the back panel replaced.  They then said they do that all of the time and I won't even notice.  I still said no.  They then said that if they have to replace the back panel they will have to pay for it since they damaged the vacuum.  I told them that I paid a lot of money for that vacuum and I wanted it returned to the condition I bought it in.  They then told me that they will see what they can do.  I asked how long it would take and they said to replace the hose I can have it by Monday or Tuesday.  To replace the back panel it could be a couple of weeks because they will have to wait for the part to come in.  <BR><BR>I'm not very happy at all right now.
  Hi Melanie, As I explained above, there was no need for the damage in the first place all they had to do was undo the cuff.  Yes, they will have to pay to replace the back panel but they also have profited enough from the original sale of the cleaner plus will profit when you go back to them for bags and filters. They won't have to shut down business and move to the poor house any time soon.  Maybe they'll put on their thinking caps next time. Oh yeah -- just for your edification -- when opening the cover on the clean-out port at the back of the machine, be sure to turn each of the "screws" a quarter of a turn only. They stop after a quarter turn but it appears that some folks were under the impression that they screw all the way out.  They are really latches and only require a quarter turn to allow you gently pry of the cover. Best, Venson  
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	Re: The New Miele Upright Cleaner 
	Reply #366   Mar 21, 2009 11:47 am	 | 
	
		
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 Hello Melanie: Why didn't you give them the opportunity to fix the broken plastic as they recommended.  Then, as a back up option, if the repair is not satisfactory to you and does not make you happy, insist on the new part replacement.  In the mean time you have your vacuum while you are waiting for the part to come in.   Carmine D. I just don't feel that that type of repair is acceptable for what I paid for the vacuum.  If I wanted that type of repair I would have purchased another vacuum from Wal Mart.  Once the hose is replaced I will see if I can pick the vacuum up and keep it until the back panel comes in and then I will take it back to have the panel put on.  
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