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Just


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Filter Queens
Original Message   Jun 4, 2008 4:55 pm
Carmine and I suggested a new thread.

Let's hear all there is about Filter Queens.  All I basically know is they are exclusively appointment only DTD.  They are expensive, and they last for freeking ever.  I have heard they have gone plastic, but other than that the basic design hasn't changed. 

Did Royal once build them?  Or did they build Royal?

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mole


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Re: Filter Queens
Reply #7   Jul 15, 2008 1:56 pm
If you wanted to make many enemies,the F.Q. was the machine to sell , the profit margins were astronomical, the aggravation level afterwards was equally astronomical,

This machine should be sold by the door to door [urban terrorists], just like kirby,by the time the customer comes out from under the ether,the sales people are long gone,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

MOLE
Just


Joined: Nov 28, 2007
Points: 172

Re: Filter Queens
Reply #8   Jul 15, 2008 5:25 pm
Mole,

I have heard this as well.   Actually it was "Cult Like' what one said in a review.  They felt they had to give into the saleman or he would stay the night.  

Wouldn't many of these DTD sales prosper more from lowering their prices/commissions, being a little more user friendly themselves, and not leave such a bad taste in peoples mouths.

In a slight defense of Kirby, I have not ever been treated badly by a Kirby person.  If I say "No thanks' they pack up and leave.  I will add that most are young college kids trying to earn a quick buck, so their experience levels are low and sales skills lower.  I have always bought my Kirby's at the shop.  Our local Kirby dealer has a big sign that says "NO SALES MADE FROM THIS OFFICE, IN HOME DEMO/SALES ONLY"  To this I reply "Oh, that's too bad, I had my checkbook."  I have always gotten what I wanted.  (I go in the shop to buy my bags and belts as I try to buy from the local guy.  I will buy from ebay on occasion, but not on a regular basis).

Now back to FQ, I have always been fasinated with this machine, but they are as rare as hen's teeth in my area; I guess their sales natzis haven't hit my are in a while.

mole


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Re: Filter Queens
Reply #9   Jul 15, 2008 5:38 pm
Just wrote:
Mole,

I have heard this as well.   Actually it was "Cult Like' what one said in a review.  They felt they had to give into the saleman or he would stay the night.  sure theres a lot of money involved.

Wouldn't many of these DTD sales prosper more from lowering their prices/commissions, being a little more user friendly themselves, and not leave such a bad taste in peoples mouths.yes

In a slight defense of Kirby, I have not ever been treated badly by a Kirby person.  If I say "No thanks' they pack up and leave.  I will add that most are young college kids trying to earn a quick buck, so their experience levels are low and sales skills lower.  I have always bought my Kirby's at the shop.  Our local Kirby dealer has a big sign that says "NO SALES MADE FROM THIS OFFICE, IN HOME DEMO/SALES ONLY"  To this I reply "Oh, that's too bad, I had my checkbook."  I have always gotten what I wanted.  (I go in the shop to buy my bags and belts as I try to buy from the local guy.  I will buy from ebay on occasion, but not on a regular basis).

Now back to FQ, I have always been fasinated with this machine, but they are as rare as hen's teeth in my area; I guess their sales natzis haven't hit my are in a while.your lucky

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Filter Queens
Reply #10   Jul 16, 2008 7:05 am
Hello Just et al

Kirby sales people developed a very bad reputation and deservedly so.  Spoiled by a few rotten ones.  To his credit, when Warren Buffet purchased the Kirby company [as part of Berkshire Hathaway], he made sure they cleaned up their sales act.

Carmine D.

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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Filter Queens
Reply #11   Jul 16, 2008 8:42 am
Mister_Bojack wrote:
I have to agree with Venson on the power nozzles. The new one on the Majestic 360 model seems to be an improvement. I personally like the older machines when they were entirely all-metal down to the bucket and caster set, but I never understood why FQ wouldn't put a larger motor in the machine. Probably the noise issue. I think the older machines run quieter too. I'd take one of those older Princess canisters in a heartbeat!



Hi,

Though the earlier FQs proved heat endurant, I think a bigger motor would up the heat production factor and possibility of early breakdown.  Without the muffling material, which also held in heat as it cut noise, FQ would rank as average regarding noise levels.  That is not news -- Electroluxes, prior the G, were quieter because of the exhaust filters they used.  However, I have to defer to craftsmanship as FQ and the old Luxes remarkably seemed to endure when a lot of others didn't.  I know of few people who ever thought to change the exhaust filters on early Luxes or the secondary filters on FQ but these machines kept on going and going.

Best,

Venson early

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Trebor


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Re: Filter Queens
Reply #12   Jan 17, 2009 8:43 pm
The reason F/Q did not put in bigger motors is: a more powerful motor tips the airflow/suction ratio toward suction, meaning more of the fine dust clings to the filter, causing it to run hotter. It IS possible to clog a F/Q w/ drywall, plaster, concrete, or road dust. Seen it happen,.Sold model 31X in undergrad years. Those were really, really good vacuums, even on carpet w/ straight airflow nozzles
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