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camelotshadow


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Just Wanted to introduce myself
Original Message   Mar 18, 2008 11:25 pm
I'm really getting bit by the vac bug lately!

I have a Hoover Mach 4.7 Windtunnel

Found it in the trash.

Boy it was a mess but think I finally got it clean

I hate to thjink what it ate

It really sucks but it moves like a bear

Its hepa fills w white powder & its a mess to shake it out

Endless white powder...

My main & all time fav is the electrolux cannister.

Guess I grew up with them

Grandma & my Mom had them

I even had one of them real old tanks once

Sorry I let it go

But I currently have 3

Olympia think its going on the e place

A deluxe silverado

a 2100

They don't pick up the fine stuff

guess I would need to buy the microlined bags

but are great for sucking up birdseed

My new fav is a old Royal 886 6 Amp

I love the all metal design

Built like a tank & easy to use it almsot vacs itself

Thing is it doesn't suck as well or groom the nap as well as the Hoover w a clean filter

It could need a roller?

I think the hoover does too

Make an annoying bearing noise...

So the rainbow came in & really got the carpets clean as I have sprayed them

It was worth iot even for a few cleans as the poor thing came all busted

But I can't see how it holds itself together with the tape & contact cement I used...

 

So now I am lusting over Filter Queen & Kirby

I think the FQ cannister is best for me

but I am wondering how the new Kirby G series will comapre to the suction of my Royal.

Well, thanks for a great forum.

Not really part of my collection

but also grabbed from trash

I use them for the garage & things

Kenmore Progressive Hepa

Hoover Convertible think its a 97...

Dirt devil wierd upright 12 A with a cone hepa filter & a pint bagless system. Thing is useless & its clean I checked it but it just makes noise. Misses so many things...its useless & only barely good for barefloors which I think it was designed for

Its going back in the trash

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Motorhead


Joined: Nov 2, 2007
Points: 409

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #1   Mar 19, 2008 12:08 am
Welcome, you'll find a lot of knowledge here.  But can you please do us a favor and try not to start a new line with each sentence?  That would be very helpful as well.

-MH
HARDSELL


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Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #2   Mar 19, 2008 8:56 am
Motorhead wrote:
Welcome, you'll find a lot of knowledge here.  -MH



Also a lot of BS and bias.  But it is lots of fun. 

I have a Kirby Sentria and a Royal.  The Kirby has much more suction.

mole


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Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #3   Mar 19, 2008 9:28 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Also a lot of BS and bias. .  The Kirby has much more suction.



How do you know????????

MOLE

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #4   Mar 19, 2008 11:24 am
mole wrote:
How do you know????????

MOLE



1. Vacuuming my car.  I have to pass over the carpet several times with the Royal to vacuum up the debris.  Once with the Kirby (and Dyson).

2. Dust on baseboards or other items.  Do not allow the hose end to touch the item.  The Kirby and Dyson will pull the dust away.  You have to touch the dust with the Royal hose.

3. Vacuuming carpet.  The Royal seldom picks up items such as threads or sock fuzz on the first pass..  The others do.  Yes I know this is not all suction related.

4. During the Kirby demo the salesman placed filter pads on the bottom of the vacuums.  The Dyson held as many as the Kirby.  The Royal held about half of the others before they fell off.

Nothing scientific or biased.  Just results.

mole


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Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #5   Mar 19, 2008 11:53 am
H.S.  You tell a nice long story,Did you take lessons from Carmine.

I am somewhat of a b.s hitter myself,but always take the time out to listen to a real professional..............

MOLE

Motorhead


Joined: Nov 2, 2007
Points: 409

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #6   Mar 19, 2008 12:07 pm
mole wrote:
H.S.  You tell a nice long story,Did you take lessons from Carmine.

I am somewhat of a b.s hitter myself,but always take the time out to listen to a real professional..............

MOLE


I think we all BS every once in a while, myself included, personally I think it wouldn't be as much fun without embellishing something once in a while.  You know how the old saying goes, if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullsh*t.

It's just that some on here do it more than most because truth can't make the machines they're "pushing" better than the Dyson

-MH
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camelotshadow


Location: 2Manyvacuums
Joined: Mar 16, 2008
Points: 23

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #7   Mar 19, 2008 1:23 pm
Like to try a Kirby

Just wondering if it was a sort of hype but we all have our favorites. Thing I don;t like is the handle design/bag. Don't like the way it sits on the G's. Also looks very unfriendly for lefty's as it would seem your leg would hit the bag as its placed on the left. I so often see the handles leaning to one side & I wonder if they attach securely.

Nothing worse thatn pushing a heavy vac w a wobbly handle. Dirt does dance in front of the royal as it is shown with the Kirby but the royal doesn't agitate or pull up the nap like the Hoover windtunnel which was a fraction of the cost. Was thinking it could also be a worn roller as its got a new belt. I live in an apt with 25 plus yo worn carpet & it really needs all the fluffing it can get...

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #8   Mar 19, 2008 2:27 pm
Motorhead wrote:
Welcome, you'll find a lot of knowledge here.  But can you please do us a favor and try not to start a new line with each sentence?  That would be very helpful as well.

-MH


Do me a favor and type that way.  Why? 

When the wizards here post their pics

it makes the words wrap around the

computer screen and it takes 10 minutes to read

a short post.  Besides it's easier to speed read.

Sorry Tom, I mean Motorhead, but to each

his own. 

I'll speak for myself in the future if you don't mind.

You can speak for yourself [and Tom Gasko].

Carmine D.

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mole


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Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #9   Mar 19, 2008 2:43 pm
camelotshadow wrote:
Like to try a Kirby

Just wondering if it was a sort of hype but we all have our favorites. Thing I don;t like is the handle design/bag. Don't like the way it sits on the G's. Also looks very unfriendly for lefty's as it would seem your leg would hit the bag as its placed on the left. I so often see the handles leaning to one side & I wonder if they attach securely.

Nothing worse thatn pushing a heavy vac w a wobbly handle. Dirt does dance in front of the royal as it is shown with the Kirby but the royal doesn't agitate or pull up the nap like the Hoover windtunnel which was a fraction of the cost. Was thinking it could also be a worn roller as its got a new belt. I live in an apt with 25 plus yo worn carpet & it really needs all the fluffing it can get...


Hi

The Kirby is the worlds best vacuum cleaner[excuse me home sanitation system], Its 10 machines in one,an upright ,a portable canister,carpet shampooer,hair dryer,buffer,waxer,knive sharpener,paint your house with it,groom your dog ,blow up air matreeses,even demothes your closet.It has a lifetime warranty[not],It's made in the usa with parts imported from other sources[oops i was not suppose to say that]. It will save you a membership at the local gym.

IT's the best vacuum on the planet,we make a ton of money on parts and service.IT'S LIKE SAYING ROLLS-ROYCE when you come in for service.And your local kirby distributor is always on call to assist you,unless you want your money back.And now for the best part ,the finance plans,you can afford only 1 dollar a week cant you.

Hey Carmine did BUFFETT buy kirby because he liked the machine or the management.

MOLE

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #10   Mar 19, 2008 5:20 pm
mole wrote:
Hi

Hey Carmine did BUFFETT buy kirby because he liked the machine or the management.

MOLE



As usual Mole, a very good question.  According to Buffett himself, he looks for 2 must have qualities when he makes and investment/purchase in a company:  One: An excellent product [service], and two: Excellent management.  Why?  Buffett is a hands off leader.  He always lets the management team in place stay in place.

Carmine D.

Just


Joined: Nov 28, 2007
Points: 172

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #11   Mar 19, 2008 5:36 pm
CarmineD wrote:
  Buffett is a hands off leader.  He always lets the management team in place stay in place.

Carmine D.



If he had bought May-pool.  We would still have English speaking Hoovers, orbital transmissions and Jetcleaned dishes. 
mole


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Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #12   Mar 19, 2008 5:47 pm
Just wrote:
If he had bought May-pool.  We would still have English speaking Hoovers, orbital transmissions and Jetcleaned dishes. 


Buffett bought kirby by accident, He thought it was the cookie company[KEEBLER]. But said i should just keep it ,before the donald bought it.

mole

Just


Joined: Nov 28, 2007
Points: 172

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #13   Mar 19, 2008 5:56 pm
mole wrote:
Buffett bought kirby by accident, He thought it was the cookie company[KEEBLER]. But said i should just keep it ,before the donald bought it.

mole


You are joking--aren't you???

Kirby is under the Scott Fetzer umbrella.  World Book, Douglass/Quick Cut and Campbell Hausfeld should have been a tip off. 

Me thinks you are joking.  I bet he doesn't even like cookies.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #14   Mar 19, 2008 7:26 pm
Just wrote:
You are joking--aren't you???

Kirby is under the Scott Fetzer umbrella.  World Book, Douglass/Quick Cut and Campbell Hausfeld should have been a tip off. 

Me thinks you are joking.  I bet he doesn't even like cookies.



Just:

Mole is telling the truth.  Buffett owns Kirby 100%.  His favorite food is a Big Mac, fries and a coke.  Of course, he owns considerable shares in McDonalds and Coca Cola.

Carmine D.

camelotshadow


Location: 2Manyvacuums
Joined: Mar 16, 2008
Points: 23

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #15   Mar 19, 2008 7:38 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Just:

Mole is telling the truth.  Buffett owns Kirby 100%.  His favorite food is a Big Mac, fries and a coke.  Of course, he owns considerable shares in McDonalds and Coca Cola.

Carmine D.


Me thinks Buffett  was named after buffet or maybe it was the other way round as it seems lthat he really likes to eat.

Maybe he bought the Kirby Keebler factory as the elves are magically delicious..

Did I mention I now own 2 Silverado's.

The PN5 was stock? When did the PN5 Omni flow come out...seem to see few PN with the silverado but they get mismatched over the years.

I just bought another Silverado as mine didn;t have a PN & the vac looked better than mine...Oh well, now I am officially CRAZY!

What were the better PN...PN4 or PN5? The 2100 comes with the L PN6B. What I don;t like about the PN4 is that it leaves lines

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #16   Mar 19, 2008 8:25 pm
mole wrote:
H.S.  You tell a nice long story,Did you take lessons from Carmine.

I am somewhat of a b.s hitter myself,but always take the time out to listen to a real professional..............

MOLE



1. A professional is one who is engaged in a profession to earn a living (as sales).  2.Being intelligent or honest is not always a requirement to be a pro.

Therefore, one should be cautious of a pro who is touting what he sells  Be very cautious as many pros fall into category 2.

Of course this is no reflection on you Mole.  Just curious.  How do you fell about pro car salesmen?

Just


Joined: Nov 28, 2007
Points: 172

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #17   Mar 20, 2008 9:06 am
CarmineD wrote:
Just:

Mole is telling the truth.  Buffett owns Kirby 100%.  His favorite food is a Big Mac, fries and a coke.  Of course, he owns considerable shares in McDonalds and Coca Cola.

Carmine D.



Oh I knew that as a fact.  What I thought he was joking about was that he though he was buying Keebler.  Surely a man of his ranking knew what he was doing, as he didn't only buy Kirby he bought Scott Fetzer.
Just


Joined: Nov 28, 2007
Points: 172

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #18   Mar 20, 2008 9:11 am
HARDSELL wrote:
  How do you fell about pro car salesmen?



I hate them. 

I have bought my last two cars from a buying service (no not a broker--they are illegal in Ks.)   I tell her what I want and she negotiates everything.  I just walk in sign the papers and pick up the keys.  I spent exactally 15 minutes in the dealership my last purchase.    This is opposed to when my mother bought her van and we spent nearly four days trying to get through their tricks. 

If someone (car or vacuum dealer) wants to sell their product, they should begin by listening to their customer and trying to make them happy.  It is unfortunate that so many these days only listen to the sales manager and the checking account. 

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CarmineD


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Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #19   Mar 20, 2008 9:13 am
Just wrote:
Oh I knew that as a fact.  What I thought he was joking about was that he though he was buying Keebler.  Surely a man of his ranking knew what he was doing, as he didn't only buy Kirby he bought Scott Fetzer.



Buffett owns Diary Queen too, so I supect he does have a bit of a sweet tooth.

Carmine D.

mole


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Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #20   Mar 20, 2008 9:23 am
Good Day,H.S.

I think j.p.t. just answered your question for me,I pretty much feel the same way about dealers,I pretty much know what im looking for when car shopping, If i feel comfortable with the salesman and dealership, i'll plunk down the money.I think most of the public by now realizes when their getting (portion deleted by moderator).

I also like dealing with people that know what their talking about, would you have ray barton build you a hemi,or some back yard part time local that just takes your money and then does nothing but B.S.  you.

I can read people pretty good ,just from dealing with lots of them,How about you?

MOLE

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Just


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Points: 172

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #21   Mar 20, 2008 10:55 am
mole wrote:
.

I can read people pretty good ,just from dealing with lots of them,How about you?

MOLE



I am usually pretty good reading a person as well.  I spent 16 years as a loan officer and debt collector (both first party and third party).  I have heard just about all.  and yes you can get blood out of a turnip--I've done it.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #22   Mar 20, 2008 10:01 pm
Just wrote:
I hate them. 

I have bought my last two cars from a buying service (no not a broker--they are illegal in Ks.)   I tell her what I want and she negotiates everything.  I just walk in sign the papers and pick up the keys.  I spent exactally 15 minutes in the dealership my last purchase.    This is opposed to when my mother bought her van and we spent nearly four days trying to get through their tricks. 

If someone (car or vacuum dealer) wants to sell their product, they should begin by listening to their customer and trying to make them happy.  It is unfortunate that so many these days only listen to the sales manager and the checking account. 



It does not matter how much they listen if they do not have what the customer wants.  Do you think a Chevy dealer will send you to a Ford dealer or will he try to tell you that Chevy is better regardless of what you want in a car.
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Just Wanted to introduce myself
Reply #23   Mar 20, 2008 10:03 pm
Just wrote:
I am usually pretty good reading a person as well.  I spent 16 years as a loan officer and debt collector (both first party and third party).  I have heard just about all.  and yes you can get blood out of a turnip--I've done it.


All of those loan companies and credit card companies are so honest.  It is shameful that you heard so many stories from all those persons that were raped by the honest loan companies.
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