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Consumer Reports - March 2008
Original Message   Jan 31, 2008 6:47 pm
Some observations -

  • Oreck is conspicuously missing from the upright ratings.
  • Panasonic has a new AeroBlast for $700 is a apparently a poor copy of a Dyson that burps loudly when it reverses the air flow to clean the filter.   Why would anyone pay so much for a Dyson copy, particularly when the filter clogs with fine dust?
  • Hoover's fall from grace is noted, presumably due to their ill conceived bagless vacuums.  Hoover now has the worst reliability of the uprights.  Dyson is second only to Kirby in the reliability rankings.   
  • For uprights, Kenmore takes the top 2 spots (bagged and bagless), followed by the Riccar SupraLite RSL3, the Electrolux Oxygen EL5035A, and the Kirby Sentria.  
  • The Halo is #33 on the list for uprights. 
  • The $60 Hoover Tempo Widepath has a better tool airflow score than the Dyson DC17 as well as better carpet cleaning scores. 



The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
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HARDSELL


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #192   Mar 2, 2008 4:49 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Why the difference?  What do people use to buy dysons?   Apples and oranges.  Or money.  $500 plus of USA dollars.  Would you accept and take family and friends' advice alone when you spend $500 and more?  Or do you research and investigate the financial terms for yourself?  Or just plunk down the $500 + based on hearsay [word of mouth as you say]? 

I gifted a dyson DC07 pink to my daughter.  It's sitting unused in a spare bedroom since June 2007.  Can't push and pull it over the carpets.  Her husband, who spent 2 years in the UK during the late 90's playing basketball, tells his house guests, and others who ask, the reason the dyson is not used: The DC07 doesn't work on US carpets.  It was designed for the European market.  Does this nullify your last statement? 

Carmine D.



Your whole family and their friends must be red necks if house guests are visiting to discuss vacuums.  
mole


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #193   Mar 2, 2008 5:01 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Your whole family and their friends must be red necks if house guests are visiting to discuss vacuums.  



Is your mother a man?

mole

dusty


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #194   Mar 2, 2008 5:07 pm
mole wrote:
Hi Dusty,what other brands of cleaners do you sell and service?

mole


Electrolux / Eureka, Panasonic, Riccar, Sebo, Samsung and then a few dealer only brands. 

Dusty
HARDSELL


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #195   Mar 2, 2008 6:33 pm
mole wrote:
Is your mother a man?

mole



Is your mother your father's sister or cousin?  Lots of inbreeding in the mole hole.
CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #196   Mar 2, 2008 8:52 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Your whole family and their friends must be red necks if house guests are visiting to discuss vacuums.  


Here's a truthful answer to a sarcastic question.  My Son-in-law has 3 brothers, 2 of whom are married and 2 of whom are living in a bordering state.  All the brothers, and their Wifes, spend alot of time visiting LV and using the spare and guest bedrooms.  The dyson pink vacuum is stored in the guest bedroom [unused since June 2007]. 

When one of the married brothers visited for Christmas with his Wife, they mentioned that they planned to buy a new vacuum.  They had seen the dyson pink stored in the guest bedroom on several visits [unused].  They said they planned to buy the vacuum at COSTCO.    Which one:  The HOOVER Rewind.  Why?  My Son-in-law's sister-in-law [his brother's Wife} works for the Pharmacy at COSTCO and she was using one at work which she really liked. 

I gifted a new HOOVER Rewind [which I purchased from COSTCO] to them during their stay.  They love it.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #197   Mar 2, 2008 9:54 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Here's a truthful answer to a sarcastic question.  My Son-in-law has 3 brothers, 2 of whom are married and 2 of whom are living in a bordering state.  All the brothers, and their Wifes, spend alot of time visiting LV and using the spare and guest bedrooms.  The dyson pink vacuum is stored in the guest bedroom [unused since June 2007]. 

When one of the married brothers visited for Christmas with his Wife, they mentioned that they planned to buy a new vacuum.  They had seen the dyson pink stored in the guest bedroom on several visits [unused].  They said they planned to buy the vacuum at COSTCO.    Which one:  The HOOVER Rewind.  Why?  My Son-in-law's sister-in-law [his brother's Wife} works for the Pharmacy at COSTCO and she was using one at work which she really liked. 

I gifted a new HOOVER Rewind [which I purchased from COSTCO] to them during their stay.  They love it.

Carmine D.



Very good Carmine.  As usual the first post left you wide open for sarcasm  since you were trying to lead us to believe that all house guests want to discuss vacuums.  It has now become an isolated incident. 

As for the Rewind.  Does a person vacuuming a business really give a sheet about the vacuum so long as it runs.  I am not so sure that your family/frinds trust your judgement as much as they apreciate a free vacuum although it is not as good as they could purchasse.

Motorhead


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #198   Mar 2, 2008 11:05 pm
I've seen the Elite Rewind before and pass it by every time without giving it a second look.  Here's the link to the Amazon page for the Elite Rewind.  Check out the user-submitted photos there.  I am amazed at how dusty this machine is after what appears to be the first or second use, not to mention the clear plastic turning cloudy fast.  I can't tell if it has become scratched from sand and dirt, or just the static attracting the residual dust.  At any rate it's not appealing and not something I would expect from a new machine.   Makes me want to sneeze.  It is worth noting that I've had my DC21 for nearly a year and the clear plastic has not become hazy like this.  No doubt a higher grade of plastic is used in the Dyson.

And while we're on the subject of plastics, look at that cheap "grainy" plastic used on the body of the Rewind! 

-MH
This message was modified Mar 2, 2008 by Motorhead
CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #199   Mar 3, 2008 6:47 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Very good Carmine.  As usual the first post left you wide open for sarcasm  since you were trying to lead us to believe that all house guests want to discuss vacuums.  It has now become an isolated incident. 

As for the Rewind.  Does a person vacuuming a business really give a sheet about the vacuum so long as it runs.  I am not so sure that your family/frinds trust your judgement as much as they apreciate a free vacuum although it is not as good as they could purchasse.

My good man:

If the consensus is that dysons [in particular the DC07] were designed for European carpets not USA and given to 2 family members, why would you presume it is limited to just them?  It's senseless for me to list all the persons, family and friends by name and occurence, that my Daughter, Son-in-law, Wife and I have admonished about the DC07 pink on US rugs.  Not to mention my builder and rug contractor.  Universal carpet makers.  And RC Willey.

I caution you.  You are threading on delicate turf.  Pharmacists are a close knit breed.  You might find truth serum substituted for your viagra prescription.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Mar 3, 2008 by CarmineD
CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #200   Mar 3, 2008 6:54 am
Motorhead wrote:
I've seen the Elite Rewind before and pass it by every time without giving it a second look. 
-MH



That's you and your reaction.  Typical for a die hard dyson worshipper. 

This dear newlywed couple, under 30 and wondering why they are suddenly paying $3.15 for gasoline and $2 for milk [the Wife is a pharmacist for COSTCO] love their HOOVER Elite Rewind.  They do the same as you when they see dysons.  Walk by quickly and say no way!    Can you blame them and most couples starting out now wanting to have children.  $500 plus for a vacuum?  That doesn't work properly?

Dysons are being discontinued at COSTCO stores [as you know] when the present inventory is sold out.  Which may take awhile.  All those new unsold dysons piled high on pallets sitting in COSTCO stores.    People don't even give them a second look [as you say].  Meanwhile the HOOVER Elite Rewind's fly off the shelf.   An $89 bagless upright with a headlight and cordwinder that's a more popular seller [and has been] than a $500 bagless dyson upright [without a headlight and cordwinder]. Go figure.  What's the vacuum industry coming to?

I see retailers offering the entire dyson line at 20 percent off plus Giftcards to boot.  DC17, 18, 21 and the one you like the least of all dysons the DC07 [yet call it dyson's signature vacuum?]. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Mar 3, 2008 by CarmineD
CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #201   Mar 3, 2008 7:35 am
CarmineD wrote:
My Friend:

Your story is an enigma.  Generally people will sell the vacuums they don't like and keep the one they do.  To do the opposite is well..........backwards.

Carmine D.



Hello HS:

You are backward with this action.  Did you buy the DC07 or was it a gift?

Carmine D.

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