Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

• Oreck is conspicuously missing from the upright ratings.
• Panasonic has a new AeroBlast for $700 is a apparently a poor copy of a Dyson that burps loudly when it reverses the air flow to clean the filter.   Why would anyone pay so much for a Dyson copy, particularly when the filter clogs with fine dust?
  
• Hoover's fall from grace is noted, presumably due to their ill conceived bagless vacuums.  Hoover now has the worst reliability of the uprights.  Dyson is second only to Kirby in the reliability rankings.   
  
• For uprights, Kenmore takes the top 2 spots (bagged and bagless), followed by the Riccar SupraLite RSL3, the Electrolux Oxygen EL5035A, and the Kirby Sentria.  
  
• The Halo is #33 on the list for uprights. 
  
• The $60 Hoover Tempo Widepath has a better tool airflow score than the Dyson DC17 as well as better carpet cleaning scores. 
  

Once again, my name is not Tom, just as yours isn't Carmen Miranda

On a more serious note, there is in fact a difference between bojack and original manufacturer's parts.  First, the use and installation of non-genuine parts invalidates the Dyson limited 5-year warranty.  Second, imitation/bojack parts are just that, imitations, a copy of the original and an inferior one at that.  Why would someone choose non-genuine parts that cost more than the real thing?  As my local Dyson dealer/service center told me, it's because not everyone has the ability to get them...Dyson service centers are run with a standard of excellence that a "bojack" vac shop does not have to maintain.  They are free to rip off the consumer any way they can. 

Hope this clears things up,
-MH

So please tell us whats the difference between the bojack brush roll,and the oem brush roll[excuse me brushbar for a dc07].Does the oem one used caged bearings where the replacement only uses roller bearings,with the rubber shields?.How about the honeywell filters will they wreck the performance of the machine.The only thing i'll agree with you about is the huge price difference.How about a bojack cord protector will that void the warranty.Would you like a list of dealers who got out of dyson?.

MOLE

Please, no more.  Now I am really confused. 

A review of the RC Willey web site indicates that they are a distributor of low end goods.  Maybe you should have insisted on something better than builder grade carpet.

It is also strange that they disclaim one of their products, especially when it will not work on a product that they sell.

Once again, my name is not Tom, just as yours isn't Carmen Miranda

On a more serious note, there is in fact a difference between bojack and original manufacturer's parts.  First, the use and installation of non-genuine parts invalidates the Dyson limited 5-year warranty.  Second, imitation/bojack parts are just that, imitations, a copy of the original and an inferior one at that.  Why would someone choose non-genuine parts that cost more than the real thing?  As my local Dyson dealer/service center told me, it's because not everyone has the ability to get them...Dyson service centers are run with a standard of excellence that a "bojack" vac shop does not have to maintain.  They are free to rip off the consumer any way they can. 

Hope this clears things up,
-MH

Sorry Tom, I mean ...........well you know.  

For the first 5 1/2 years dysons came with a 2 year warranty.  Aug 15, 2006 was the changeover.  The vast majority of all the existing 2 year warrantied dysons are now out of warranty.  In a several months they all will.  Dyson customers can and will choose replacement parts/genuine at their discretion.  Or choose not to repair and trade in.  Many do the latter.

Dyson big box retailers sell dyson replacement filters and have for years.  Dyson has not pulled its vacuums off the retailers' shelves for selling replacement filters [bojack as you say].  Why should independents [especially those who do not want to carry dysons] be compelled to use and sell genuine dyson parts?  They shouldn't especially if the replacement parts are as good if not better than OEM.  And less expensive.

My sense is dyson [who already sued and lost] wants all the replacement parts business and doesn't want to share the proceeds with dyson replacement parts suppliers.  This battle in the industry is as old as I am, if not older.  All the rest about high standards and warranties is smoke and mirrors.  As Mole said, many vacuum parts, replacement and original, are made by the same maker.  The difference is the brand name on the part and the higher cost for the name.

Carmine D.

My Friend:

Your story is an enigma.  Generally people will sell the vacuums they don't like and keep the one they do.  To do the opposite is well..........backwards.

Carmine D.

MH:

Just curious about this statement which you always make along with your dyson drivel. 

Do you accept and follow financial advice from friends and family?  Or do you go to the experts?

Carmine D.

Well, Orecks may be *used* in over a million hotel rooms daily, but that doesn't mean they actually clean anything...all the dirt is still there in the rugs waiting patiently for someone with a real vacuum cleaner to come along and remove it.  All the Oreck really is is a hair dryer, a bag, and a hairy stick.

Everyone who owns an Oreck has the same exact thing...dirty rugs that only look clean.

I really like one of the ORECK advertising claims:  "More Clean. Less Money."   Beats most of the others, like: Never clogs, never loses suction.  I forgot.  That was discontinued because the ASA ruled it was false after 36 consumers, ORECK and HOOVER protested it.

ORECK's must be accurate.  Why?  Dyson and consumers would sue.

Carmine D.

Dyson had better go after the japanese market,they are the only ones left that believe his bull,it must be all the pretty pictures.

I cant wait for the day when they get out of the floorcare industry,maybe by then he would have invented the laser toilet bowl cleaner.

Dont forget to check E-BAY out ,factory refubished dysons[already]. Its only been 2 years and they have reconed machines already,what does that tell me and the public,it must really be JUNK. But dyson dont care he can always unload his stuff on the japs...........

mole

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