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Consumer Reports - March 2008
Original Message   Jan 31, 2008 6:47 pm
Some observations -

  • Oreck is conspicuously missing from the upright ratings.
  • Panasonic has a new AeroBlast for $700 is a apparently a poor copy of a Dyson that burps loudly when it reverses the air flow to clean the filter.   Why would anyone pay so much for a Dyson copy, particularly when the filter clogs with fine dust?
  • Hoover's fall from grace is noted, presumably due to their ill conceived bagless vacuums.  Hoover now has the worst reliability of the uprights.  Dyson is second only to Kirby in the reliability rankings.   
  • For uprights, Kenmore takes the top 2 spots (bagged and bagless), followed by the Riccar SupraLite RSL3, the Electrolux Oxygen EL5035A, and the Kirby Sentria.  
  • The Halo is #33 on the list for uprights. 
  • The $60 Hoover Tempo Widepath has a better tool airflow score than the Dyson DC17 as well as better carpet cleaning scores. 



The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
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CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #168   Mar 1, 2008 6:23 pm
mole wrote:
Carmine,do you really believe that the bojack parts are different from the oem parts,you know better they are the same pieces,

Heres a little inside info you, how come genuine kirby bags say made in proc on the bag with the genuine kirby trademark.......

mole


Hello Mole:

We know that in many instances the replacements are as good if not better than the genuine.  Why?  The vacuum parts makers and suppliers have to compete for the business.  How? With both price and quality.  You provided a good example, the Kirby bags.  In many cases, the makers for the genuine and replacement parts are the same.  Didn't Tom's signature dyson DC07 have a $59 panasonic motor for years?

Carmine D. 

CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #169   Mar 1, 2008 6:34 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
In post # 135 you tried to lead this moron ot believe that 3000 homes in your community had carpet like yours.  Now you tell us that others hav echosen a different carpet.

There has never been any doubt that you lie to suit your argument.



My friend:

Thank you.  Let me clarify since this has confused you, Tom and Jim B or whoever they call themselves now.  Universal is the carpet maker which voids its warranty if dysons are used.  I can provide the location, Web Site and telephone number.  Mohawk is the brand name of the carpet and my brand for both carpet and flooring.  Universal supplies carpets to all major carpet brands including Mohawk.   

BTW, I did mention that RCWilley, the largest retailer of appliances, rugs, electronics, and furniture west of the Mississippi, provides HOOVER TEMPO vacuums with all rug and carpet sales over $1000.  RCWilley sells HOOVER, BISSELL, and dyson vacuums.  The sales staff in the rug and appliance departments advise customers against dyson vacuums when dysons will not work on the carpets it sells.  Dyson is the only brand vacuum it disclaims.

Carmine D. 

CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #170   Mar 1, 2008 6:36 pm
Motorhead wrote:
When was the last time you heard a hotel or restaurant being rated 10 stars?  That's not how that system works, come on now.  5 stars is excellent.



How is this rating system any different and/or better than Consumer Reports, Tom?

Carmine D.

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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #171   Mar 1, 2008 6:39 pm
Yes Gasko's dc07 had the retail 59.95 panasonic derived motor,of course his had the reverse rotation because he used it in the congo where the water flushes backward,and he could only get it to run on mondays and thursdays, He really never liked the way the machine worked,he just liked the pretty bannana yellow color.Was his called a signature series and considered a collectors item  because it was signed by the BRIT who talks like his false teeth had fallen out......

MOLE

CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #172   Mar 1, 2008 6:40 pm
Motorhead wrote:
When was the last time you heard a hotel or restaurant being rated 10 stars?  That's not how that system works, come on now.  5 stars is excellent.



Tom:

I know ORECK's clean over one million hotel and motel rooms a day.  How many does dyson clean?

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #173   Mar 1, 2008 6:42 pm
mole wrote:
Yes Gasko's dc07 had the retail 59.95 panasonic derived motor,of course his had the reverse rotation because he used it in the congo where the water flushes backward,and he could only get it to run on mondays and thursdays, He really never liked the way the machine worked,he just liked the pretty bannana yellow color.Was his called a signature series and considered a collectors item  because it was signed by the BRIT who talks like his false teeth had fallen out......

MOLE



I think the yellow color indicated it was a "lemon." 

Carmine D.

Motorhead


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #174   Mar 1, 2008 6:44 pm
Once again, my name is not Tom, just as yours isn't Carmen Miranda

On a more serious note, there is in fact a difference between bojack and original manufacturer's parts.  First, the use and installation of non-genuine parts invalidates the Dyson limited 5-year warranty.  Second, imitation/bojack parts are just that, imitations, a copy of the original and an inferior one at that.  Why would someone choose non-genuine parts that cost more than the real thing?  As my local Dyson dealer/service center told me, it's because not everyone has the ability to get them...Dyson service centers are run with a standard of excellence that a "bojack" vac shop does not have to maintain.  They are free to rip off the consumer any way they can. 

Hope this clears things up,
-MH
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HARDSELL


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #175   Mar 1, 2008 6:46 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Tom:

I know ORECK's clean over one million hotel and motel rooms a day.  How many does dyson clean?

Carmine D.

Not sure about quantity.  What I do know is:

Oreck is only run in the rooms daily.

Dysons clean them daily.

Motorhead


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #176   Mar 1, 2008 6:47 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Tom:

I know ORECK's clean over one million hotel and motel rooms a day.  How many does dyson clean?

Carmine D.


Well, Orecks may be *used* in over a million hotel rooms daily, but that doesn't mean they actually clean anything...all the dirt is still there in the rugs waiting patiently for someone with a real vacuum cleaner to come along and remove it.  All the Oreck really is is a hair dryer, a bag, and a hairy stick.

Everyone who owns an Oreck has the same exact thing...dirty rugs that only look clean.
This message was modified Mar 1, 2008 by Motorhead
HARDSELL


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Re: Consumer Reports - March 2008
Reply #177   Mar 1, 2008 6:50 pm
CarmineD wrote:
I think the yellow color indicated it was a "lemon." 

Carmine D.



Actually the yellow represents a sour taste to all those inferior brands that are so envious of Dyson.

On second thought it could represent a bana peel as so many others have slipped while trying to keep up with it.

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