Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Some observations -

• Oreck is conspicuously missing from the upright ratings.
• Panasonic has a new AeroBlast for $700 is a apparently a poor copy of a Dyson that burps loudly when it reverses the air flow to clean the filter.   Why would anyone pay so much for a Dyson copy, particularly when the filter clogs with fine dust?
  
• Hoover's fall from grace is noted, presumably due to their ill conceived bagless vacuums.  Hoover now has the worst reliability of the uprights.  Dyson is second only to Kirby in the reliability rankings.   
  
• For uprights, Kenmore takes the top 2 spots (bagged and bagless), followed by the Riccar SupraLite RSL3, the Electrolux Oxygen EL5035A, and the Kirby Sentria.  
  
• The Halo is #33 on the list for uprights. 
  
• The $60 Hoover Tempo Widepath has a better tool airflow score than the Dyson DC17 as well as better carpet cleaning scores. 
  

CarmineD wrote:
When was the last time you heard a hotel or restaurant being rated 10 stars?  That's not how that system works, come on now.  5 stars is excellent.

Motorhead wrote:

How could 5 be below average?  It would depend on how many items are rated as a 5.

example:

10 items tested

5 are rated 5

2 are rated 7

1 is rated 2

2 are rated 3

5 is average

Of coures this does not fit into Carmine's deceitful thinking.

mole wrote:

Hello Mole:

We know that in many instances the replacements are as good if not better than the genuine.  Why?  The vacuum parts makers and suppliers have to compete for the business.  How? With both price and quality.  You provided a good example, the Kirby bags.  In many cases, the makers for the genuine and replacement parts are the same.  Didn't Tom's signature dyson DC07 have a $59 panasonic motor for years?

Carmine D. 

HARDSELL wrote:

My friend:

Thank you.  Let me clarify since this has confused you, Tom and Jim B or whoever they call themselves now.  Universal is the carpet maker which voids its warranty if dysons are used.  I can provide the location, Web Site and telephone number.  Mohawk is the brand name of the carpet and my brand for both carpet and flooring.  Universal supplies carpets to all major carpet brands including Mohawk.   

BTW, I did mention that RCWilley, the largest retailer of appliances, rugs, electronics, and furniture west of the Mississippi, provides HOOVER TEMPO vacuums with all rug and carpet sales over $1000.  RCWilley sells HOOVER, BISSELL, and dyson vacuums.  The sales staff in the rug and appliance departments advise customers against dyson vacuums when dysons will not work on the carpets it sells.  Dyson is the only brand vacuum it disclaims.

Carmine D. 

Motorhead wrote:

How is this rating system any different and/or better than Consumer Reports, Tom?

Carmine D.

Yes Gasko's dc07 had the retail 59.95 panasonic derived motor,of course his had the reverse rotation because he used it in the congo where the water flushes backward,and he could only get it to run on mondays and thursdays, He really never liked the way the machine worked,he just liked the pretty bannana yellow color.Was his called a signature series and considered a collectors item  because it was signed by the BRIT who talks like his false teeth had fallen out......

MOLE

Motorhead wrote:

Tom:

I know ORECK's clean over one million hotel and motel rooms a day.  How many does dyson clean?

Carmine D.

mole wrote:

I think the yellow color indicated it was a "lemon." 

Carmine D.

Once again, my name is not Tom, just as yours isn't Carmen Miranda

On a more serious note, there is in fact a difference between bojack and original manufacturer's parts.  First, the use and installation of non-genuine parts invalidates the Dyson limited 5-year warranty.  Second, imitation/bojack parts are just that, imitations, a copy of the original and an inferior one at that.  Why would someone choose non-genuine parts that cost more than the real thing?  As my local Dyson dealer/service center told me, it's because not everyone has the ability to get them...Dyson service centers are run with a standard of excellence that a "bojack" vac shop does not have to maintain.  They are free to rip off the consumer any way they can. 

Hope this clears things up,
-MH

CarmineD wrote:

Not sure about quantity.  What I do know is:

Oreck is only run in the rooms daily.

Dysons clean them daily.