Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Some observations -

• Oreck is conspicuously missing from the upright ratings.
• Panasonic has a new AeroBlast for $700 is a apparently a poor copy of a Dyson that burps loudly when it reverses the air flow to clean the filter.   Why would anyone pay so much for a Dyson copy, particularly when the filter clogs with fine dust?
  
• Hoover's fall from grace is noted, presumably due to their ill conceived bagless vacuums.  Hoover now has the worst reliability of the uprights.  Dyson is second only to Kirby in the reliability rankings.   
  
• For uprights, Kenmore takes the top 2 spots (bagged and bagless), followed by the Riccar SupraLite RSL3, the Electrolux Oxygen EL5035A, and the Kirby Sentria.  
  
• The Halo is #33 on the list for uprights. 
  
• The $60 Hoover Tempo Widepath has a better tool airflow score than the Dyson DC17 as well as better carpet cleaning scores. 
  

CarmineD wrote:

The Dyson claims were meant for intelligent people, not an idiot who would try to use it as a leaf vacuum or some other off the wall use.  Desperate companies often go to any means to destroy competition.  They used such examples to say that the Dyson clogs. Sadly the law all too often sides with them.  Even sadder is an old has been who loves these scenarios try and support his hate for something that kicked his a$$.   Hoover should be required to post on their bagless machines.  "The filter screen on this vacuum will almost immediately clog with use resulting in poor performance". "You should have another vacuum to assist with cleaning the screen and pleated filter".

Word of mouth is about the best endorsement a product can receive.  Remember the old addage that people will talk about a bad product and seldom mention a good one.  The ones who have been shamed by Dyson do a lot of lying and bashing.  The average consumer has only the highest praise for Dyson. 

Motorhead wrote:

I listen and read all the input:  Vacuum store owners, industry experts,  and professionals; consumers who rate HOOVER TEMPO the best upright;  Consumer Reports who rates it consistently in the top 10; and my dear sister who owns and uses a HOOVER TEMPO which I gifted to her over 3 years ago.  She loves it.  It is her only full size vacuum in a 3 story home.  I believe the facts, not hearsay [word of mouth as you say].

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

My friend:

I'm more interested in the above average consumers!   Average consumers settle for mediocrity.  Perhaps the reason they like dysons.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Dyson is alive and well on WM site.  More 5 *'s than Hoover.

What do you smoke?

CarmineD wrote:

You only listen to the facts that support your arguments.  Likewise, you only report those same types.

CarmineD wrote:

With all  the time that you spend in WM how do you find an above average shopper?

CarmineD wrote:

Carmine,  I am neither a writer nor a reviewer.  I am simply a cosumer who hates deception and half truths.  If I choose to write a review I will  it wil be confined to the merits and faults of the vacuum as I see them.  I will not use it as an opportunity to bash other brands as you do.  Really does not take courage to participate here.  You just need tolerence and patience.

My opinion of the vacuums that  I returned have not changed.  What in the he** does that have to do with not currently owning a Dyson?  I sold the Dyson because I wanted to and because I could. BTW, I only said that I liked the DC07 better than the Bissell.  Only you would try to twist that into criticism.

 Now the real reason is that I wanted to try other brands as I did prior to buying the Dyson.  I kept the Dyson simply because I felt that it outperformed the others (including those that I tried after buying the Dyson).  The latest is not always the greatest.  You should know that since you are a big H fan.   I would as soon have the DC07 as any of the latest Dysons.

The Royal is a very good vacuum for carpets.  It fails on hard floors.  Dyson is still better for my use.

O.K. you asked for it.

dyr-7500 clutch upright dc04/14 dealer cost29.95. no belts.

dyr-6000 motor dc07-dc14, cost26.95.

dyr-1075 geared belt dc17 animal. cost 1.89.

dyr-2005 b-roll with out clutch system dc04/07/14. 11.50 cost.

So please explain to me again what makes dyson think  it's cleaners are worth the asking price.

These guy's are playing the public for SUCKERS.And we sell their parts................

MOLE     

Hi Mole,

Thanks for supplying the pricing information.  Does Dyson dictate the price between vendor/repair person and the customer?

Thanks,

Venson

Venson wrote:
Hi Venson,

Mole is giving you pricing information for *bojack* Dyson parts.  Genuine Dyson parts are sold only to independent Dyson dealers.  Any part number that starts out DYR means Dyson Replacement or non-genuine Dyson parts.  For example, a genuine Dyson clutch costs $19.36 and has 2 belts included.  Mole is selling non-genuine parts, and yet if you think he's telling customers that the new clutch he put on their DC07 is bojack, you're mistaken.  The lies and jealousy among "industry insiders" is staggering.  Dyson does not supply retail prices to their independent service centers.  They do not even have suggested repair costs.  Independent Dyson dealers are free to set their own repair costs.  ESSCO had a line of bojack Dyson parts made up (in China of course) because Dyson will not sell genuine repair parts to wholesalers, only to *authorized* independent service centers.  I have heard this from a number of sources. 

I feel sorry for the customer who goes into Mole's repair shop and is told they are being sold genuine Dyson parts when they are not.

-MH