Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Some observations -

• Oreck is conspicuously missing from the upright ratings.
• Panasonic has a new AeroBlast for $700 is a apparently a poor copy of a Dyson that burps loudly when it reverses the air flow to clean the filter.   Why would anyone pay so much for a Dyson copy, particularly when the filter clogs with fine dust?
  
• Hoover's fall from grace is noted, presumably due to their ill conceived bagless vacuums.  Hoover now has the worst reliability of the uprights.  Dyson is second only to Kirby in the reliability rankings.   
  
• For uprights, Kenmore takes the top 2 spots (bagged and bagless), followed by the Riccar SupraLite RSL3, the Electrolux Oxygen EL5035A, and the Kirby Sentria.  
  
• The Halo is #33 on the list for uprights. 
  
• The $60 Hoover Tempo Widepath has a better tool airflow score than the Dyson DC17 as well as better carpet cleaning scores. 
  

CarmineD wrote:

You do not know the whole story.  I sold the DC07 after 3 years (big mistake).  I presently own the Royal and a Kirby Sentria.   The DC07 is still the best in my humble opinion.

I tried a DC14 and the 07 is defininitely a better vacuum.   I doubt the DC07 is being discontinued because of poor performance.  Just like in the auto industry, change is inevitable even if not for the better.

Now where is the bias or gain.  You had a bad experience with Dyson and I with other brands.  Please tell me why your problem is worse than mine or anyone else's.

Oh, I almost forgot.  Dyson put you and so many others down. 

mole wrote:

MOLE,  we agree on one thing.  Corporate America is out to screw all.

Now lets go back in time before Dyson.  My point is that those owners with the BACKGROUND as you say profited from repairs more than from sales.  Dyson was not invented, however there was no shortage of vacuum repairs to be made.  Now in more modern times we have Dyson and no indy has profited enough to stay in business solely on Dyson sales or repairs. 

You can't be referring to Dyson when you say the COMPANY because you have already established that the owners were ignorant of the business.  I wonder how many reading here are in this group.   I think 2 at least.  You pick them.

Did I tell you that I like Dyson?

Hello Good Friend:

I remind you again that after my experience with the dyson, my dear Wife and I attended a floor care session presented by our builder and the floor and rug sub contractor.  There were about 30 residents in attendance.  Some like me who bought and used dysons.  All complained pretty much with the same problem I had.  You know the rest.  But here it is again. We and all other home buyers are warned not to use dysons on our carpets.  Why?  Won't work. 

You know the reason.  There is no height adjustment on the dyson DC07.  And it has a weighted down rug nozzle head.  The combination of the two causes the the dyson to sink into many USA carpets.  Worse than being hard to push and pull over the carpet is the gawdawful ratcheting noise due to the clutch.  Which dyson discontinued on later models [and one of the reasons that the DC07 and DC14 are being discontinued].  Why? Not made for US rugs save low, smooth pile similiar to European rugs. 

That's why you are biased.  You presume that if one lone dyson is excellent in your particular application it must be for all.  It is not.  What do you have to gain?  Trying not to look like a total dummie when others, including seasoned professionals, and Consumer Reports and a major carpet manufacturer [which will not warranty its carpets with dyson vacuums] tell you why your dyson case is not representative of all.

Carmine D.

BTW, Venson eloquently and wisely made this point [see my last post and paragraph] to all on the thread on Lightweights.  If you missed it, here it is again.  You should read it again.

Carmine D.

Lucky1 wrote:
The belief, hard work, tenacity, discoveries, science, and inventions that are championed into commercialized products from James Dyson, his fellow inventors and his support team/s compliments the designs and marketing quite well. DIB

CarmineD wrote:
Carmine I do believe that I have stated more than once that there is no absolute best of any consumer good.   I am not surprised that you did not comprehend when I said it.

CarmineD wrote:

And you think that one isolated failure in your home on carpet that is not prevalent in most homes Makes Dyson a failure.  Get real your biased moron. 

HARDSELL wrote:

My good man:

A community with over 3,000 new homes and a leading [read major] rug manufacturer are hardly considered an isolated biased opinion except to a moron.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Good man:

I don't believe you have ever said that in conjunction with an Oreck, HOOVER, BISSELL and any other brand save dyson.  However, as a gentleman, I will give you the benefit of the doubt rather than asking you to provide a link for proof.

Carmine D.

The only reason Dyson vacuums are not Carpet & Rug Institute certified is simply because Dyson hasn't paid the CRI to endorse them!  If Dyson wanted to become certified by the CRI, they could do so very easily, however, Dyson has done well with word of mouth so they have not needed that paid endorsement.  Hoover and Oreck's sales have no doubt been affected by the Dyson's presence (and not in a positive way), so they need that added "advantage" so to speak.