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stresst


Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
Points: 213

What do I do??
Original Message   Oct 28, 2011 10:52 pm
Many of you know I have been throwing the idea around of either selling my Toro 826OXE or having an 11hp from the 1128OXE installed. Anyway I had it up for sale but people wanted to pay like 600 bucks! Mind you I paid nearly 1600 less then 10 months ago!

So with the first reports of snow falling north and west of the city I have the snow blower loaded in my fathers van ready to go to the dealer. Do I just have it serviced and continue to try and sell it (really dont want to invest more $$) or do I have them install the 11HP engine?

The dealer wants 120.00 + any parts to do the service. Now if they swap the shortblock this 120 gets washed away as they need to do an oil change, new plug, adjust belts, etc once they install the new engine block.

What do you think I should do?

TORO 826OXE
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stresst


Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
Points: 213

Re: What do I do??
Reply #16   Oct 30, 2011 5:15 pm
aa335 wrote:
I think you should get it, it has the largest engine for a single stage from the factory.  The Toro is very good even with just a 163cc 4-stroke engine, 208cc is just even better.

With that said, I'm not sure if you are aware of this little know fact.  The Toro 621 is designed on a platform that can accomodate either a 2 stroke and 4-stroke engine.  The cowling is bloated, and that's not by mistake.  It's seems it can fit 208cc or larger size engine.  I wouldn't be surprised that a 250cc may find it's way in there. 

But you know Toro is not going to play that game.  They're already successful enough with their smaller engines. The last time they built a super single, it was too heavy and expensive, 125 lbs. 



So your telling me I should take the 250cc from my Toro 826OXE and install in the 621 that I didnt buy yet? Great idea! Thanks! LOL

I would prefer to get the Toro SS being they match perfectly but the Simplicity SS looks so much more "beefier", nevermind it has a halogen light and fuel guage! Gonna be a hard decision!

TORO 826OXE
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: What do I do??
Reply #17   Oct 30, 2011 5:30 pm
stresst wrote:

but the Simplicity SS looks so much more "beefier", nevermind it has a halogen light and fuel guage! Gonna be a hard decision!


Gizmos don't move snow.
bus708


Location: Maryland
Joined: Jul 24, 2010
Points: 321

Re: What do I do??
Reply #18   Oct 30, 2011 8:27 pm
Why don't you just tune it up YOURSELF. Check your belts or replace them YOURSELF.  Change your own oil.  Replace your own spark plug.  You will save allot of money.  If you are willing to spend $120, you can Replace all your belts. change your oil , replace your spark plug. And install clarence's impeller kit for less money.  It is not hard to do at all .  I'm sure everyone here can help you if you get stuck.  There are many u-tube videos too  It may take you 2 hours tops. Why give your money to the snow blower man.  You know how it ran last year. If you do the above i'm sure you will be impressed . You will be proud of yourself too .
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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: What do I do??
Reply #19   Oct 30, 2011 11:15 pm
stresst wrote:
So your telling me I should take the 250cc from my Toro 826OXE and install in the 621 that I didnt buy yet? Great idea! Thanks! LOL

I would prefer to get the Toro SS being they match perfectly but the Simplicity SS looks so much more "beefier", nevermind it has a halogen light and fuel guage! Gonna be a hard decision!


I can't say for sure that the engine in your Toro 2 stage will fit in a single stage.  Give it a go, do an engine swap. 

But perhaps a Honda GX200 or GX240 would fit, these are nice compact engines.   Not cheap though.

I never found the power on the Toro 421QE (or 621QZE) to be lacking.  It even surprised me how gutsy it is.  If anything, I would like it to be smoother and quieter.   Sure, more power would be nice, but that just upsets the balance of the machine.  More noise, more vibrations, skittish behavior, no thanks.

When it's too much for the SS, then I bring out the 2 stage.  Pick the right tool for the job and it's so much more enjoyable.  I'm not into modifying anymore.  Just don't have the time.


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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: What do I do??
Reply #20   Oct 31, 2011 11:58 am
borat wrote:
Gizmos don't move snow.

Agreed.  I never let gizmos be the deciding factor.
stresst


Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
Points: 213

Re: What do I do??
Reply #21   Oct 31, 2011 9:20 pm
bus708 wrote:
Why don't you just tune it up YOURSELF. Check your belts or replace them YOURSELF.  Change your own oil.  Replace your own spark plug.  You will save allot of money.  If you are willing to spend $120, you can Replace all your belts. change your oil , replace your spark plug. And install clarence's impeller kit for less money.  It is not hard to do at all .  I'm sure everyone here can help you if you get stuck.  There are many u-tube videos too  It may take you 2 hours tops. Why give your money to the snow blower man.  You know how it ran last year. If you do the above i'm sure you will be impressed . You will be proud of yourself too .



I hear ya I am actually quit handy but the problem is it was running a bit rough last year. The last few weeks of the season I drained the gas out and put fresh gas in but the same thing. The other day I put some gas in for the first time with a new plug but it was the same......Plugs and oil are childs play....... but carb adjustments im lost! As far as belts go I probably could have done that as well but I figured let me get everything checked out......last season I ran a ton of crap over including the outdoor carpet which stopped the motor, about 25' of 10/3 extension cord & a 2lb steel ashtray which shut the motor down as well. A screw rattled loose on the black cover which covers the belt.........figured it couldnt hurt to get it checked out! Trust me I didnt want to cough over 120! As long as I dont run anything over this season this will be the last time this thing sees the dealer!

Do they make service manuals for theset things? Would like to know which carb screws adjust what, as well as how much tension should be in the belts........

TORO 826OXE
samdog


Joined: Feb 9, 2010
Points: 55

Re: What do I do??
Reply #22   Oct 31, 2011 10:26 pm
borat wrote:
Gizmos don't move snow.


True enough, they don't. But in the this snowpocalypse, I was clearing my driveway in the dark and we had no electric power for the postlamps.

I couldn't have moved  snow that night without the large powerful headlight on my Toro 826OE. It also lighted the whole yard as I chainsawed downed tree branches, and I aimed it into the garage when I needed to go in there.

Well, I suppose I could have struggled through with a Walmart headstrap light, but it would have been slow. I sure appreciate that big 250 cc powered halogen headlight now.

This message was modified Oct 31, 2011 by samdog
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: What do I do??
Reply #23   Oct 31, 2011 11:08 pm
stresst wrote:
I hear ya I am actually quit handy but the problem is it was running a bit rough last year. The last few weeks of the season I drained the gas out and put fresh gas in but the same thing. The other day I put some gas in for the first time with a new plug but it was the same......Plugs and oil are childs play....... but carb adjustments im lost! As far as belts go I probably could have done that as well but I figured let me get everything checked out......last season I ran a ton of crap over including the outdoor carpet which stopped the motor, about 25' of 10/3 extension cord & a 2lb steel ashtray which shut the motor down as well. A screw rattled loose on the black cover which covers the belt.........figured it couldnt hurt to get it checked out! Trust me I didnt want to cough over 120! As long as I dont run anything over this season this will be the last time this thing sees the dealer!

Never heard anyone's snowblower ingest so much stuff as yours, in one winter!  Hopefully, it's only $120 to have it checked out.

Sounds like the Ariens Pro 28 should have enough power to go pulverize those objects without shutting down the engine. 


This message was modified Oct 31, 2011 by aa335
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: What do I do??
Reply #24   Oct 31, 2011 11:49 pm
samdog wrote:
True enough, they don't. But in the this snowpocalypse, I was clearing my driveway in the dark and we had no electric power for the postlamps.

I couldn't have moved  snow that night without the large powerful headlight on my Toro 826OE. It also lighted the whole yard as I chainsawed downed tree branches, and I aimed it into the garage when I needed to go in there.

Well, I suppose I could have struggled through with a Walmart headstrap light, but it would have been slow. I sure appreciate that big 250 cc powered halogen headlight now.



I don't look at a headlight as a gizmo, it's good for safety both for you and so people will see you in the dark. I also have reflective tape on the front lip of the bucket. Maybe I should put some on teh sides and back as well.....

Heated grips are a gizmo as is electric start.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
samdog


Joined: Feb 9, 2010
Points: 55

Re: What do I do??
Reply #25   Nov 1, 2011 9:17 am

Steve_Cebu wrote:

I don't look at a headlight as a gizmo, it's good for safety both for you and so people will see you in the dark. I also have reflective tape on the front lip of the bucket. Maybe I should put some on teh sides and back as well.....

Heated grips are a gizmo as is electric start.


My neighbor has gizmo, heated grips on his MTD. Problem is; they are too hot to use, even with gloves!

And with proper storage and care, OPE will start on the first pull. So my electric starter cords make nice little extension cords for the house and shop.

Yes, the headlight is essential safety equipment, when motoring up the street in snowy conditions, to do my neighbor's drives.  I am considering wiring in a tail-light as well (using a motorcycle mirror arm) for rear visibility. 

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