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John_G


Joined: Dec 31, 2010
Points: 3

Snow Blower Stalls
Original Message   Dec 31, 2010 5:48 pm
My Snow blower only runs with the choke full on.  The engine is a Tecumseh HS50 Snow King (according to the sheet in my packet.)  Loosining the gas cap has no effect.  I expect that the next step is to clean the bowl.  Any advice on this task? 

John G.

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John_G


Joined: Dec 31, 2010
Points: 3

Re: Snow Blower Stalls
Reply #2   Jan 1, 2011 5:58 pm
Well, I am keepng my fingers crossed until Monday.  I have removed the carb. I very carefully set aside the 3 bolts that hold the cover and a 1/8 in sq silver pointed piece that I guess is a jet control.  I can't figure out what the silver piece is fastened to.  Or does it just sit in the hollow bolt in the bottom of the bowl?  I have poked 24 Ga. wire in every hole I can see.  There was some crud in the bottom of he float bowl that I dumped.  With my usual luck I now can't find the parts I so carefully put aside.  So Monday I am off to either the snoblower store  or Sears parts.  I need a gasket plus the missing parts, Strangely, Sears says are in stock locally.  I guess eveyone uses these Tecumseh engines.
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Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: Snow Blower Stalls
Reply #3   Jan 1, 2011 6:33 pm
That "1/8 in sq silver pointed piece that I guess is a jet control" is probably your inlet needle. It sits on top of the float (or on a piece connected to the float) and as the float, well, floats, it pushes the needle into a hole to stop more gas from coming into the bowl.  As the level in the bowl drops, it lowers and more fuel can enter.

Download this: http://www.cpdonline.com/692509.pdf  and you'll find a section on carbs with diagrams showing what those parts are.

Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Snow Blower Stalls
Reply #4   Jan 1, 2011 10:29 pm
Here is a link to a bunch of Tecumseh carb cleaning pictures.
http://outdoorpowerinfo.com/repairs/

Here is a more direct link to something similar to what you have:
http://outdoorpowerinfo.com/repairs/tecumseh_carb_632334a.asp

Here is a youtube channel for a guy with a lot of repair videos, just search for carb or tecumseh or snow:
http://www.youtube.com/user/donyboy73
tkrotchko


Location: Maryland
Joined: Feb 9, 2010
Points: 143

Re: Snow Blower Stalls
Reply #5   Jan 1, 2011 11:05 pm
Look here:

http://www.opeonthenet.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10151

What this guy calls "the marty hole" is what gets clogged. You almost can't see it unless you've got good eyes (he's enhanced it for the picture).

John_G


Joined: Dec 31, 2010
Points: 3

Re: Snow Blower Stalls
Reply #6   Jan 6, 2011 3:20 pm
So I was able to remove the carb.   And then I removed the bowl...There was some crud in the gas in the bowl so I took you-all's suggestion to heart and stripped the insulation off a length of 24 ga. wire and stuffed in every visable hole.  There was a pointed silver thing that I guessed was a jet control and shaking it and the float around, I was able to get it all back together.  Of course. after the fact, I realized it would have been easier to remove the float drop the silver thing in the hole and then replace the pin.  Half the illustrations I looked showed a spring on the pin but I didn't remember seeing one and the motor diagram that Sears shows doesn't show the spring, so it all got bolted up.  Turned the gas on, gave it a bit of choke and set the throttle about half way.  I held my breath pulled and on the second pull, the engine started.  Thank you to all who gave me the good advice.  After a short warm up, it was running full throttle with the auger turning and not a sign of a stall. 
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Snow Blower Stalls
Reply #7   Jan 6, 2011 3:30 pm
I would not worry about the spring if you don't remember one.  I think that is mainly used on smaller 2 cycle carbs.

The silver pointed thing is the needle that opens and closes with the float to allow the gas to come into the carb.
It should have a small spring type thing clipping it to the float.

Glad everything is working now.
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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Snow Blower Stalls
Reply #8   Jan 6, 2011 4:30 pm
Good to hear you got it running well. 

You have achieve two important things.  1)  You understand your carb better and are able to repair it.  2) You probably saved $100.00 by not bringing it to a shop. 

So take that $100.00 you saved and treat yourself to something.  
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