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PACKO


Joined: Nov 19, 2008
Points: 70

Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Original Message   Dec 17, 2009 11:52 am
I was just in a Home Depot store and looked at the Sno-Tek's.  It is amazing they put a nice big sticker on the bucket that says "Made in the USA".  I guess the "Made in China engine" doesnt apply.  Good old marketing tricks.
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alexsha


Joined: Dec 13, 2009
Points: 8

Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #13   Dec 17, 2009 8:12 pm
http://www.lctusa.com/

Support & parts distribution in the USA, even if the engine itself comes from China.
PACKO


Joined: Nov 19, 2008
Points: 70

Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #14   Dec 17, 2009 9:53 pm
Hello to all, I am the original poster.  In a way it was a bit of a slam to Ariens, after all just what does "Made in America mean these days"?,  The tag caught my eye first thing!  Leave the that tag off and all would be well.  I realize it is a world market, just dont try and pull the wool over anyones eyes with a shiny tag..  Is that fair enough?  The engine may be great.
How many laid off workers will it take for this country  to realize this.    SAD Situation.
I'm a young 60 yrs old and cant believe what is going on here.  There will always be some politician to say ..."dont worry it will work out in the end."
Sorry to get a bit political but that is our future...SNOW or NOT.
MADE IN THE USA
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #15   Dec 18, 2009 5:47 pm
The Made in the USA is misleading.  Be careful about thinking that Made in USA means quality.  However, there's something else that is not.  "Made in China" means that the people who put these engines together are proudly displaying for the public to see.  60 and 15 years ago, we thunb down our noses at products made overseas from Japan and Korea.  Look at where they are now.  Let's not make the same mistake the third time.

US has to get competitive or all we can provide are weapons and services.  If a pair of jeans already costs $60 and are made over there, who's going to pay for $200 jeans made in the US of A.
Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #16   Dec 20, 2009 1:28 am

Your reference to jeans caught my attention.  A while back my wife and daughter were shopping for dresses at JC Penny's.  I was bored and spent about 40 minutes walking through the store looking at everything and anything to see where it was made.  The ONLY items I found that carried a "made in USA" label were blue jeans. 

Lenin once said (paraphrasing) that a capitalist will sell a rope to someone for a profit even though he knows the buyer intends to use the rope to hang him with.

 

That's because the capitalists' greatest value is profit. All other values are secondary and dispensable as long as the first value is obtained. Any social reality is acceptable as long that first value is materialized.

 

The "rope" that China used was cheap labor.  China went to American business leaders and offered to build products cheaper for them.  American businessmen knew that outsourcing their manufacturing to China would produce quick and easy profits, so they went for it...even though they also knew that it would ultimately lead to their demise.  They just could pass up the quick profit. 



borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #17   Dec 20, 2009 10:11 am
Paul7 wrote:

Your reference to jeans caught my attention.  A while back my wife and daughter were shopping for dresses at JC Penny's.  I was bored and spent about 40 minutes walking through the store looking at everything and anything to see where it was made.  The ONLY items I found that carried a "made in USA" label were blue jeans. 

Lenin once said (paraphrasing) that a capitalist will sell a rope to someone for a profit even though he knows the buyer intends to use the rope to hang him with.

 

That's because the capitalists' greatest value is profit. All other values are secondary and dispensable as long as the first value is obtained. Any social reality is acceptable as long that first value is materialized.

 

The "rope" that China used was cheap labor.  China went to American business leaders and offered to build products cheaper for them.  American businessmen knew that outsourcing their manufacturing to China would produce quick and easy profits, so they went for it...even though they also knew that it would ultimately lead to their demise.  They just could pass up the quick profit. 





Ahhh, you left out one very important fact. Domestic manufacturers did not voluntarily close down their plants and rush off to China because they wanted to. WALMART caused the exodus many years ago when they became the dominant retailer in North America. A couple of years ago, PBS produced an excellent documentary on how Walmart forced American manufacturing to move to China. If you have a chance to see it, you should. It's a real eye opener.
Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #18   Dec 20, 2009 3:30 pm
borat wrote:
Ahhh, you left out one very important fact. Domestic manufacturers did not voluntarily close down their plants and rush off to China because they wanted to. WALMART caused the exodus many years ago when they became the dominant retailer in North America. A couple of years ago, PBS produced an excellent documentary on how Walmart forced American manufacturing to move to China. If you have a chance to see it, you should. It's a real eye opener.

I'll look for it.  Walmart just entered our local markets a few years ago so I don't know a lot about any historical influence they had.
sscotsman


Joined: Dec 3, 2009
Points: 56

Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #19   Dec 20, 2009 5:23 pm
Here is the Frontline documentary:

http://tinyurl.com/y882whe

the full-lengh movie is also there..this was out in theatres in 2005:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6548480812335235955#

Scot
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jack


Joined: Nov 8, 2009
Points: 18

Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #20   Dec 22, 2009 7:39 pm
quit bashing walmart. thet have what the public wants at a good price.i work for a family owned supermarket, who proudly displays a sign, american owned.but what do i see in the backroom, is cases of product coming from china and everywhere else in the world. why is that? money, money ,money , means profit's, profit's , profit's.i'm sorry to say this this but get used to it.i go to walmart when i want price and selection. the super stores are unbelievable. everything you want under one roof.every business is out for themselfs and that's the bottom line 
sscotsman


Joined: Dec 3, 2009
Points: 56

Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #21   Dec 22, 2009 8:07 pm
jack wrote:
quit bashing walmart. thet have what the public wants at a good price.i work for a family owned supermarket, who proudly displays a sign, american owned.but what do i see in the backroom, is cases of product coming from china and everywhere else in the world. why is that? money, money ,money , means profit's, profit's , profit's.i'm sorry to say this this but get used to it.i go to walmart when i want price and selection. the super stores are unbelievable. everything you want under one roof.every business is out for themselfs and that's the bottom line 


you are entitled to your opinion..
I am entitled to disagree with you..

I have the same right to continue to bash walmart that you have to say "quit bashing walmart" ..

just because you hold a certain opinion, doesnt mean people who hold the opposite opinion have to shut up..

When Walmart puts your family-owned supermarket out of business, and you are out of a job, you will feel differently..
and make no mistake..it is Walmarts goal to put your family-owned supermarket out of business..
every business is out for themselfs and that's the bottom line ..and you cant win against Walmart.

Scot
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #22   Dec 22, 2009 10:29 pm
Observing reality and recognizing responsibility is hardly "bashing". I suggest you watch the documentary and give yourself a mini lesson in recent changes in North American economics, manufacturing and retail. Scotsman's prediction is not in jest. What he's say is true. Mark his words, Walmart will be coming to a neighbourhood near you too. When it does, you had better get over there and fill out an application for employment because your present employer will be forced out of business.
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