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aa335
Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #6 Dec 17, 2009 2:29 pm |
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I was gonig to buy the sno-tek with the chinise lct engine but where will i get parts for it if it breaks? Buy parts from the same store you bought the snowblower in the first place. It will be already assembled to the snowblower. No need to diagnose the problem and replacing part after the part. Seriously, I don't know if there are parts distribution set up for these engines. It may costs more to buy parts and pay somebody labor than to get a whole new engine.
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opecrazy
Joined: Oct 8, 2009
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Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #7 Dec 17, 2009 2:41 pm |
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I do think there is a flaming/trolling tone. I don't think they sounded necessarily stupid though. The point is the stickers that say "made in usa" don't mean that much. I forgot the actual rule, but it depends on the a certain percentage of the invested cost in a final product. In other words, a great deal of the product can be made somewhere else and still be labeled as made in the U.S.A. , as long as the final assembly or whatever is valued at the greatest percentage compared to the other components of the product. B&S engines are made in China too. What matters is that Ariens put their name on the unit. This means that they have at least some confidence in its success.
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sscotsman
Joined: Dec 3, 2009
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Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #9 Dec 17, 2009 3:17 pm |
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Not too long ago, I was ringing the alarm bell about the excessive amount of Chinese content in everything we buy. I was actually concerned about the well being of our manufacturing base. Considering how North American manufacturing in general have embraced Chinese productivity and cheap labour, I must conclude that my fears are unfounded.......
Borat,
im curious what you mean by "my fears are unfounded"... how is "North American manufacturing in general have embraced Chinese productivity and cheap labour" a *good* thing? how is that good for the "well-being of our manufacturing base", when our manufacturing base is leaving..for China.. your comments seem to to contradict.. just curious..not trying to flame..just wondering what you mean.. thanks, Scot
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borat
Joined: Nov 10, 2007
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Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #10 Dec 17, 2009 4:54 pm |
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Borat, im curious what you mean by "my fears are unfounded"... how is "North American manufacturing in general have embraced Chinese productivity and cheap labour" a *good* thing? how is that good for the "well-being of our manufacturing base", when our manufacturing base is leaving..for China.. your comments seem to to contradict.. just curious..not trying to flame..just wondering what you mean.. thanks, Scot Tongue in cheek comment sscotsman. I do not condone the handing over of our manufacturing capabilities to a foreign country whatsoever. The point that I'm trying to make is that despite my outspoken disagreement with our country's dependence on a foreign country making all of our stuff, our manufacturers don't seem to mind it at all! One after the other they are sliding down the slippery slope to China. What's even more disconcerting, is that we're not even wise enough to spread the work around. We've pretty much handed the egg basket over to China. How many more years before they have us completely by the $#%*?
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sscotsman
Joined: Dec 3, 2009
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Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #11 Dec 17, 2009 5:16 pm |
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Tongue in cheek comment sscotsman. I do not condone the handing over of our manufacturing capabilities to a foreign country whatsoever. The point that I'm trying to make is that despite my outspoken disagreement with our country's dependence on a foreign country making all of our stuff, our manufacturers don't seem to mind it at all! One after the other they are sliding down the slippery slope to China. What's even more disconcerting, is that we're not even wise enough to spread the work around. We've pretty much handed the egg basket over to China. How many more years before they have us completely by the $#%*? oh good! I was a bit confused, having read some of your comments from the last week or so.. I guess I havent been here long enough to pick up on the sarcasm! ;) I agree with you 100%.. My wife worked for a big international company.. production went to Mexico and China.. her and 60,000 of her coworkers are out of a job.. those jobs will never come back.. she has found some temp work, but at half her previous salary.. our family income is down by 40%..and it will never go back to where it was.. my own job hangs by a thread..for these same reasons.. I refuse to buy anything at Walmart..I cant stand the place. well..I dont want to get into a big debate..I was just confused by your post! ;) thanks for clearing it up.. glad to see you havent slipped into complacency yet.. Scot
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borat
Joined: Nov 10, 2007
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Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #12 Dec 17, 2009 6:37 pm |
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yeah. Every once in a while, I have to vent. I've been commenting on "Chinese content" for years. Approx. twelve years ago, while opening Christmas presents, it became abundantly clear that even then, China had produced 80% of the gifts under our tree. I've been relentless in bringing this to light since then. It would appear however, most people do not share this concern, or if they do, they're pretty good at concealing it. Now, twelve years later, our manufacturing sector is even more at risk because with the flood of North American/Japanese/European "know-how" being supplied to China, be it legitimate or stolen, has elevated their productivity and quality to a level that is very difficult to ignore. Two years ago, I would go out of my way to avoid buying a Chinese built OPE engine because the build quality was inconsistent . Now, I have no qualms whatsoever. Their engines quality has improved that much. Being that some components in B&S engines are built in China, we have virtually no choice but to buy a foreign small engine, like it or not. You are correct in pointing out Walmart as being the catalyst that began the exodus of blue collar jobs out of our countries. They completely changed the way business had been conducted between manufacturing and retail. I like to refer to Walmart as the "Great Wall Mart".
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alexsha
Joined: Dec 13, 2009
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Re: Ariens Sno-Tek sticker
Reply #13 Dec 17, 2009 8:12 pm |
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http://www.lctusa.com/
Support & parts distribution in the USA, even if the engine itself comes from China.
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