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Marshall


As Long As There Are Tests, There Will Be Prayer In Public Schools. ;- )

Joined: Sep 16, 2002
Points: 7730

Should you have kept that muscle car?
Original Message   Mar 16, 2005 7:14 pm
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Year: 1970
Make: Plymouth
Model: Hemi Cuda
Vehicle Location: Summerville, South Carolina - Free auto transport quote!
Price: $360,000 - US Dollars - Finance this car!


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Description:
After Flying out to personally inspect this rare Hemi Cuda. We are pleased to present this Numbers Matching HEMI Cuda, with great honour and respect for a true work of art. Not only was this car done right, I can almost promise you it looks better than it did when it rolled off the assembly line. The underside of this car looks just as good as the top, not too mention how nicely detailed the engine compartment is. Everything on this car is correct as it should be for a car of this caliber. The Cuda comes with tons of documentation, Build Sheet and Fender Tag. It is also a very rare color combo of Rallye Red exterior, Interior with a black vinyl top. Not too mention from what we could find out it is one of 3 with a factory luggage rack. Some of the other cool options are Wood Grain Console, Remote Mirror, Tachometer, Plastic Front Bumper and Dual Chrome Tip Exhaust. If you are looking for a perfect Hemi Cuda, and are tired of your time being wasted with those that think they have one. Call us anytime, We are Brokers for this Rolling Work of Art and can assist with everything it will take too put this in your garage soon. From Wire Transfers to Transportation, we are set up too help in any way possible. Call or email anytime.
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Emmo


Joined: May 22, 2003
Points: 1065

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #1   Mar 16, 2005 7:41 pm
Nice car and all that but that A LOT OF DOUGH!!



Granted, mine was not mint and very used up by the time I was done with it, not worth much today (although the price of scrap is pretty high right now)

This was similar to mine. Sold it in 1978, $800 if I remember.

This message was modified Mar 17, 2005 by Emmo
bbwb


Less is more...more or less

Location: NE Minnesota
Joined: Feb 23, 2004
Points: 115

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #2   Mar 16, 2005 8:43 pm
No question that the muscle cars from the 60's and 70's are getting premium prices right now.   What really turns my crank (no pun intended) would be a 1959 Buick Electra.  Those delta wing units are way cool.  Pedestrians need to run for cover with this one coming down the road, the fins would cut them in two!

bbwb

Marshall


As Long As There Are Tests, There Will Be Prayer In Public Schools. ;- )

Joined: Sep 16, 2002
Points: 7730

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #3   Mar 16, 2005 10:36 pm
Emmo, that's a bad azz pic man!    Can you believe $360,000.00 for that Cuda? Damn!


bbwb, something like the following?




Boy, you're right, those wings are mega.

Looks like they came with either a 364 V-8 or a 401 V-8.

BTW, I didn't realize the Buick made a 425 with 2) 4bbl carbs on it in the 60's.
I also didn't know that a 455 meant 455 ft lbs of torque.
Learn something everyday.

Buick Engine Identification
bbwb


Less is more...more or less

Location: NE Minnesota
Joined: Feb 23, 2004
Points: 115

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #4   Mar 16, 2005 11:40 pm
Yep, thats it.  However, I prefer the 4 door sedan over the hardtop model in  the pictures.  I never did care for the eyebrow over the rear window.  My dad had one of these and always had to replace the rear resonators because they  were directly behind the rear wheels, and that the short trips to work never heated them up enough.  The triple turbine tranny was rebuilt at least two times that I can remember (sold with 70,000 miles).  The next owner drove it to the twin cities and lost the car due to fire.  A fuel line broke and sprayed gas on the hot exhaust.  Oh well.

bbwb

Paula


May you have enough happiness to make you sweet,
enough trials to make you strong,
enough sorrow to keep you human and
enough hope to make you happy.


Joined: Apr 30, 2004
Points: 785

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #5   Mar 17, 2005 12:24 am
bbwb

I had a 1966 Buick Electra in my college years...picked it up for $600 if I remember right.  And for good reason....the tie rods were shot and every time I hit a bump, the wheel would start shaking and I'd have to slow down until it stopped before I could speed up again.  The heater didn't work so I drove to school with the windows down to keep the windshield from frosting up.  The distributor cap had a hairline crack so if there was any moisture in the air, I had to take it off and blow it dry with a blowdryer.  And the alternator went out shortly after buying it.....remember driving home in the rain without using the wipers because lights were getting so dim and I wound up coasting into the driveway.  

My memories of that car were a little less than happy ones....I used to refer to it as my boat without the oars...

Paula

Majorxlr8n


Location: Freehold NJ
Joined: Aug 6, 2003
Points: 1092

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #6   Mar 17, 2005 1:41 am
Still got mine!

If I decided to sell my GTO, I'd be LUCKY to get 2% of what that Hemi 'Cuda is worth! But I know my battered & tattered "Goat" would leave that trailer queen hemi in the dust...

Marty

Bill_D


Nice day for a mow!!

Location: Chicago
Joined: Dec 6, 2002
Points: 920

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #7   Mar 17, 2005 1:43 am
Still have my 68' Hurst/Olds, appreciating by the minute!
Marshall


As Long As There Are Tests, There Will Be Prayer In Public Schools. ;- )

Joined: Sep 16, 2002
Points: 7730

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #8   Mar 17, 2005 10:17 am
Marty, nice Goat! What's under the hood?

Bill, you're right, that Hurst Olds is getting more valuable every day. Did you check out the other Hurst Olds on the site I posted? If not, do so.

MissSnowshoveler


If you don't have free speech, what do you have?

Location: NS
Joined: Feb 5, 2005
Points: 706

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #9   Mar 17, 2005 11:17 am
Boy now this is a thread after my own heart.  I love the cars (well most of them) from before my time. 

I've been to a lot of car shows and have been with a car that has been in the shows.  I love the feel and atmosphere.  Just as long as the people don't go ape crazy cleaning.  When I have to lay under the car to clean it - I give up!

I have a lot of pics of the cars that I used to hang out with.  Love for you guys to see them.  But here at work we are on slow, slow dial up, so that really isn't an option.  But take my word for it - they're awesome.

Sherri

If you don't have free speech, what do you have?
Bill_D


Nice day for a mow!!

Location: Chicago
Joined: Dec 6, 2002
Points: 920

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #10   Mar 17, 2005 4:54 pm
Marshalll not to sound stupid, but where did you post it??   I posted a picture of mine on the old site, cant find the thread now.
Marshall


As Long As There Are Tests, There Will Be Prayer In Public Schools. ;- )

Joined: Sep 16, 2002
Points: 7730

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #11   Mar 17, 2005 6:06 pm
Bill_D wrote:
Marshalll not to sound stupid, but where did you post it??   I posted a picture of mine on the old site, cant find the thread now.

From the link in my first post I started the thread with. I saw at least one Hurst Olds on there.

Link

This '75 is bringing 15K. I imagine your '68 is well beyond that.


This message was modified Mar 17, 2005 by Marshall
Marshall


As Long As There Are Tests, There Will Be Prayer In Public Schools. ;- )

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Points: 7730

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #12   Mar 17, 2005 6:23 pm
Here you go Bill, getting close to 68. $42,500.00

1970 Oldsmobile 442 2-Door Sport Coupe (w-30)





Year: 1970
Make: Oldsmobile
Model: 442 2-Door Sport Coupe (w-30)
Vehicle Location: Pineville, Louisiana - Free auto transport quote!
Price: $42,500 - US Dollars - Finance this car!


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Majorxlr8n


Location: Freehold NJ
Joined: Aug 6, 2003
Points: 1092

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #13   Mar 18, 2005 12:44 am
Marshall wrote:
Marty, nice Goat! What's under the hood?

OK Marshall - since you asked...

Its a 1970 Pontiac 455 block with many modifications. Total displacement is 481 inches - .040" cylinder overbore with steel sleeve inserts, .028" additional stroke on the crankshaft, 6.800" Big Block Chevrolet steel rods, custom Venolia pistons with raised pin height for zero deck clearance, Childs & Albert total seal Zero gap rings - compression is 11.75 to 1, custom billet steel four bolt main caps with ARP high tensile studs. Original heads have been fully ported & flow 280 CFM at 28hg water on the intake, 220 CFM on the exhausts, Ferrea Valves, Crane 1.65 to 1 roller rockers, & Jesel valve stud girdles. Intake is a highly modified, cut, reshaped & rewelded Edelbrock Torquer II with a Holley 950 CFM Pro Series 4 barrel carb, cam is a Lunati Hydraulic with .595" lift intake, .610" exhaust, 250/250 degrees duration, cam lobe centerline is 106 degrees & cam is installed 2 degrees advanced from TDC. Exhaust starts out with a slightly modified set of equal length Hooker headers, 2.5" head pipes with a Dr. Gas "X" crossover pipe, LARGE 21" case Walker Dynomax mufflers (to keep the local constabularies content) with 3" mandrel bent tailpipes. Ignition is a Delco Remy HEI with an Accel module, MSD 75kv coil, Stef's Specialties pickup coil & trigger, Taylor Spiral core ignition wires. For the rest of the drivetrain I run an A-1 10" torque converter with 3500RPM stall speed, Turbo Hydramatic 400 3 speed transmission with manual valve body and the gearing out back is only 3.23 to 1 with an Eaton Severe duty differential.

My engine was actually a combined effort of my thoughts & another long time Pontiac guy in my area. This brainchild was actually composed on paper back in 1991, but didn't see actual assembly until 1997. Many measurements had to be made before ordering many expensive, special order parts. This engine (out of the car) made 587 hp on the dyno & makes 530 hp on the chassis dyno. While this is really not a BIG horsepower engine, it makes an abundance of torque at very low RPM (try 705 Ft/lbs at 2200) & at redline (6600 rpm) still makes 645 ft/lbs. Maximum hp is reached between 6400-6500 rpm depending on weather conditions, altitude, carb jetting & ignition timing. Best quarter mile times to date: 11.90 @ 112 mph with slicks & full exhaust thru mufflers, 11.73 @ 115 with slicks & open exhaust. My car weighs 4250 lbs with me strapped in & 6 gallons of fuel. In 1983, my dad dubbed this car "the refrigerator" due to its heft, white color, and due to the fact that "the light comes on when you open the door". I even have a few of those tacky fridge magnets on the trunk decklid!

This car has been a rolling testbed for my own experimenting with the Pontiac V8 powerplant. I have learned a lot with this car - both what to do & what NOT to do with a Pontiac engine. Many guys over the years attempted to build up their Pontiac engine in similar fashion to that of a Chevrolet, and it almost ALWAYS resulted in a very doggy powerplant. I can't tell you how many Pontiac guys I've helped over the years who had just a bad combo of parts installed & a real poor engine tune.

My GTO has been featured in High Performance Pontiac magazine on 3 occasions, last being October of 1998. In that issue, there is a picture of my car pulling up & carrying the left front tire about 4" off the ground for the entire 60' starting pad. It took a lot of hard work, money, & mistakes to get there, but it's priceless...

Marty

This message was modified Mar 18, 2005 by Majorxlr8n


Marshall


As Long As There Are Tests, There Will Be Prayer In Public Schools. ;- )

Joined: Sep 16, 2002
Points: 7730

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #14   Mar 18, 2005 11:45 am
Marty, sounds like a hellatious engine! All it needs now is a blower.
snowshoveler


tides in dirts out surfs up

Location: bridgewater nova scotia...aka the swamp
Joined: Jan 3, 2003
Points: 1261

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #15   Mar 18, 2005 6:50 pm
i always liked the tin indian..

and they seemed to respond quite nicley to a boost in compression.there basic design was pretty good right out of the box.

good heads and good valve train .all you needed on the street was a little extra with the pistons.and you seem to have lots of that.

nice ride .

later chris

craftsman 10/28 snowblower with tracks   husky 372xpg chainsaw   sachs dolmar bc212 bushsaw   mondo trimmer   monster tractor with trailer    cheep wheelbarro and couple shovels and a partridge in a pear tree 
buttlint


Joined: Oct 14, 2002
Points: 791

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #16   Mar 18, 2005 8:15 pm
Sweet rides.
I am sure you feel guys feel the same pride with your rides as I do with my sweet machine. (1995 Saturn SL-1)

I had her all polished up and lookin' fine last summer.
Although you cant see all of the improvements I've made...believe me they are there! This is one "sleeper".
I tricked her out with:
  • 36 month Sears Diehard Battery
  • The exhaust is a high-end  Midas "Gold Series" system.
  • 2 Anco "Micro-edge" wiper blades.
  • 4 Uniroyal Tigerpaw retreads keep this baby glued too the pavement.
Check out what I have done too the interior.

  • Fully reclining seats. (Sleeps 2 comfortably)
  • Dual function floor mats that convert into super warm comforters.
  • Totally functional cigarette lighter with custom high capacity "beanbag" ashtray. (Not shown.)
  • AM-FM radio with factory Delco-Remy cassette player.
And talk about performance!
  • 0-60 mph: mid 1:30's.
  • I have had her up too 72 mph......but I had too back off when one of the tire caps let loose.
Highwind


Despite the high cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular.

Joined: Jan 13, 2004
Points: 985

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #17   Mar 18, 2005 9:16 pm
LOL Lint.

I can see you are rightly proud of your stead, and the $89.95 worth of performance enhancements you've put into her.  Since she is obviously your pride and joy, you should think about adding cup and liquor bottle holders, unless the wife will hang onto them for you while you wrestle with the loose steering to keep the old rocket more or less going in a straight line. Or was that just you after emptying a bottle of Jack Daniels in a single gulp? Can't blame you as one would have to be drunk or insane to drive where you live.  And we all know you are as sane as a......well.....uh, ....hmmm....going to have to think about it and get back to you.

Honda stable: HS 724 snowblower;  HRS216 lawnmower; BF2 UWWW; 5 HP, 2200 psi/2.9 GPM pressure washer.

Electric: BV2500 B&D Leaf Hog/snow duster; old 12" Weedeater.

Marshall


As Long As There Are Tests, There Will Be Prayer In Public Schools. ;- )

Joined: Sep 16, 2002
Points: 7730

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #18   Mar 18, 2005 10:07 pm
Lint, you crack me up.
buttlint


Joined: Oct 14, 2002
Points: 791

Re: Should you have kept that muscle car?
Reply #19   Mar 18, 2005 11:07 pm
Thanks guys.
I think once I get the left front quarter and hood replaced.....I could probley expect maybe, $500.00-$525.00 at a good auction.
(Not that I would I would ever sell her!)
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