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Acerone


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Dyson's new Pet Groomer
Original Message   Oct 1, 2010 11:44 am
Attchment. More info here http://www.dyson.co.jp/vacuums/groom/ Looks very interesting
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vacmanuk


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Re: Dyson's new Pet Groomer
Reply #5   Nov 5, 2010 12:52 pm
Finally the tool has hit the UK.

See YT video from vintagehoover:

In use: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baq1P3kyFfM

Talk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N-rpLqKhrU
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson's new Pet Groomer
Reply #6   Nov 5, 2010 2:13 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Finally the tool has hit the UK.

See YT video from vintagehoover:

In use: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baq1P3kyFfM


Good video, thanks Vacmanuk.  If I'm correct the 4 legged furry friend is an English lab which sheds year around, more frequently and in amount in warmer climates.  Not sure the young lady is a dog owner and/or a lab owner, particularly English breed.  Why?  She would have demo'ed the tool on the lab's chest and undershoulders.  This area from my personal observation of labs, particularly English breed, has the longest fur and more likely to easily shed.  Had she done so, her tool demo would have been better, IMHO.  Also, I would have preferred to see the actual quantity of pet fur in the bin that is vacuumed off the lab with one, two, and three or more passes of the same area.  Again, particularly for the lab's under side for the shoulders and chest areas.  It's not about the design and function of the tool, but also the time required to do the best job.  Comparing a typical suction tool and vacuum with the dyson tool and vacuum would show which is actually best both for performance and time.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


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Re: Dyson's new Pet Groomer
Reply #7   Nov 5, 2010 6:46 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Good video, thanks Vacmanuk.  If I'm correct the 4 legged furry friend is an English lab which sheds year around, more frequently and in amount in warmer climates.  Not sure the young lady is a dog owner and/or a lab owner, particularly English breed.  Why?  She would have demo'ed the tool on the lab's chest and undershoulders.  This area from my personal observation of labs, particularly English breed, has the longest fur and more likely to easily shed.  Had she done so, her tool demo would have been better, IMHO.  Also, I would have preferred to see the actual quantity of pet fur in the bin that is vacuumed off the lab with one, two, and three or more passes of the same area.  Again, particularly for the lab's under side for the shoulders and chest areas.  It's not about the design and function of the tool, but also the time required to do the best job.  Comparing a typical suction tool and vacuum with the dyson tool and vacuum would show which is actually best both for performance and time.

Carmine D.


The links that I have given are from a press launch that is rather informal. Of course you can see that from the links I've provided. In one part of the video you can clearly see the way she is brushing the dog and the fur collected as it spins into the cyclone bin. Frankly I have no time for Dyson products unless it actually makes a lot of good sense - and in this respect = the dog groomer tool is a work of engineering simplicity. Quite why it's never been thought of before is a mystery. I've a feeling though that due to its button at the top for the hose connection that it won't have a friction fit design. However I'm prepared to try one out to see if it will fit on 32mm tubing regardless of the pip lock button.
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson's new Pet Groomer
Reply #8   Nov 6, 2010 7:31 am
vacmanuk wrote:
The links that I have given are from a press launch that is rather informal. Of course you can see that from the links I've provided. In one part of the video you can clearly see the way she is brushing the dog and the fur collected as it spins into the cyclone bin. Frankly I have no time for Dyson products unless it actually makes a lot of good sense - and in this respect = the dog groomer tool is a work of engineering simplicity. Quite why it's never been thought of before is a mystery. I've a feeling though that due to its button at the top for the hose connection that it won't have a friction fit design. However I'm prepared to try one out to see if it will fit on 32mm tubing regardless of the pip lock button.


Not a big demand, Vacmanuk.  Despite the growing number of pet owners in the USA, almost 80 million [not sure how many are lab owners, let alone English breed tho American labs(short haired) are very popular], I didn't know any owners who vacuumed their 4 legged furry friends, let alone daily as I did.  Despite all the various and sundry tools I used, the best was even simpler than dyson's: an old fashioned soft plastic hoover crevice tool.  Worked fine.  If I wanted to groom, I just lightly ran the tool over the dog's fur.  If I wanted to clean the dander and dry dead skin, I put the tool end right on the dog.  While fur is the biggest problem for pet owners and homes, the white powdery dander is the problem for the furry pets.  Causes itching and scratching.  The latter was the reason I vacuumed my English yellow lab daily.  She was also epileptic.  The various health remedies for dander and ticks had bad side effects for her.  They were triggers for her seisures.  Daily vacuuming was the best and cheapest solution. 

Carmine D.

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vacmanuk


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Re: Dyson's new Pet Groomer
Reply #9   Nov 6, 2010 9:43 am
See more now at: http://www.dyson.co.uk/vacuums/groom/

The tool is available for use with most Dyson vacuums except the DC01 range. Tool has click button release for the more modern vacs in the Dyson range. However there would be ways around this as my old DC01 could use 32 mm Hoover tools with the use of an adaptor.
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson's new Pet Groomer
Reply #10   Nov 6, 2010 2:11 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
See more now at: http://www.dyson.co.uk/vacuums/groom/

The tool is available for use with most Dyson vacuums except the DC01 range. Tool has click button release for the more modern vacs in the Dyson range. However there would be ways around this as my old DC01 could use 32 mm Hoover tools with the use of an adaptor.



Interestingly Vacmanuk, all the various videos demo'ing the new dyson pet groomer, where a dyson vacuum is in view, it's always a DC24.  Always.  Did you notice that in all the the 8-9 videos including dyson's web site videos?

Depending on the price, dyson would do well to market this pet grooming tool to the pet industry/other vacuum makers for more pervasive sales.  The tool is best suited for vacuums with suction controls IMHO to regulate power with the tool usage depending on the breed of dog and fur.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Nov 6, 2010 by CarmineD
Venson


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Re: Dyson's new Pet Groomer
Reply #11   Nov 6, 2010 5:32 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Interestingly . . . The tool is best suited for vacuums with suction controls IMHO to regulate power with the tool usage depending on the breed of dog and fur.

Carmine D.



Hi Carmine,

I "vacuumed" both the and the dog I had. The essentials indeed are that the suction be low, just enough to suck up loosened fur, and that the machine is quiet. Otherwise, you'll find your pet freaks when you try.

I never went for anything elaborate. The Filter Queen I had a simple round tool with soft plastic teeth and my cat loved it. (Eureka actually had the same thing for a time that it promoted for pet grooming.) Later down the line, I'd give the dog a going over with the bare floor side of my Electrolux flip tool. It did the job well enough and he liked it so much that he flopped onto the floor waiting every time I turned the cleaner on. Both he and the cat appeared to like the feel of the air moving through their fur. Venson
vacmanuk


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Re: Dyson's new Pet Groomer
Reply #12   Nov 6, 2010 10:00 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Interestingly Vacmanuk, all the various videos demo'ing the new dyson pet groomer, where a dyson vacuum is in view, it's always a DC24.  Always.  Did you notice that in all the the 8-9 videos including dyson's web site videos?

Depending on the price, dyson would do well to market this pet grooming tool to the pet industry/other vacuum makers for more pervasive sales.  The tool is best suited for vacuums with suction controls IMHO to regulate power with the tool usage depending on the breed of dog and fur.

Carmine D.


Carmine, I really don't think it matters what model they are using it on. For other markets its probable that the DC25 is probably a new model. Dyson won't market it to other brands but I'm pretty sure all owners will probably try and buy the tool and try to make it work.
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson's new Pet Groomer
Reply #13   Nov 7, 2010 5:26 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Carmine, I really don't think it matters what model they are using it on. For other markets its probable that the DC25 is probably a new model. Dyson won't market it to other brands but I'm pretty sure all owners will probably try and buy the tool and try to make it work.



Vacmanuk, I think the vacuum/model matters with this tool and all pet tools.  Lower air watts of DC24 work better with this pet grooming tool than higher suction, IMHO.  This is the reason I say the tool works best with a vacuum that has suction controls.  Pet owners may buy and use this tool independent from owning a dyson vacuum but it depends on the price.  In the UK it's 40 british pounds.  Not sure what the price will be in the US market.  As SEVERUS points out here, a $5 pet tool from Wal*Mart serves the same purpose and probably just as well for his needs.  Pet stores/catalogues saturate the US market with pet grooming tools similar to the one Venson references.  Price includes adapters for button and/or force fit for $10-$20.  These work well depending on the vacuum used in concert with them.  Even vacuum stores in the USA sell such pet grooming tools where markets and clientele warrant.  I never did.  But if a vacuum customer specifically asked, I gifted or sold for a small price a Kirby tool, much like the one Venson references.  Work well when and if used regularly for the pet.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


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Re: Dyson's new Pet Groomer
Reply #14   Nov 7, 2010 7:37 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Vacmanuk, I think the vacuum/model matters with this tool and all pet tools.  Lower air watts of DC24 work better with this pet grooming tool than higher suction, IMHO.  This is the reason I say the tool works best with a vacuum that has suction controls.  Pet owners may buy and use this tool independent from owning a dyson vacuum but it depends on the price.  In the UK it's 40 british pounds.  Not sure what the price will be in the US market.  As SEVERUS points out here, a $5 pet tool from Wal*Mart serves the same purpose and probably just as well for his needs.  Pet stores/catalogues saturate the US market with pet grooming tools similar to the one Venson references.  Price includes adapters for button and/or force fit for $10-$20.  These work well depending on the vacuum used in concert with them.  Even vacuum stores in the USA sell such pet grooming tools where markets and clientele warrant.  I never did.  But if a vacuum customer specifically asked, I gifted or sold for a small price a Kirby tool, much like the one Venson references.  Work well when and if used regularly for the pet.

Carmine D.


But what about a vacuum that has an air outlet slider on the handle if it doesn't have variable suction? Surely you'll get a slower rate of suction then? We have pet tools in the UK too, the most effective being the wide Lint types with lint patches on either side like this:


Or









Now, with the first tool I find it incredibly tuff to remove collected fur and frustrating, especially when it constantly sticks on the lint felt pad and clogs the main dust channel.
The second one is better, but it also clogs because the pet hair twists around the plastic tufts on this round brush. Either way you're going to be cleaning off the pet hair collected. With the Dyson tool, regardless of suction control you dont have to effectively touch the fur or hair collected.

Thirdly, with most Dysons that have a 1200 to 1300 watt motor *by UK spec, the Pet Groomer doesn't need a strong suction control to suck up the fur. Granted stronger suction may indeed carry the fur faster through to the tube into the bin, thus not impeding suction.
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