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| Severus 
     
 If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
 
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	|  | Inside Consumer Reports Test Labs: New vacuums from Aerus, Electrolux, Lindhaus, Miele, Panasonic, and Sebo Original Message   Sep 29, 2010 12:54 pm
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More opinions from CR for better or worse... An Electrolux that reminds them of Barney the Dinasaur....   CR takes Lux to task for not offering more performance for the price.   http://blogs.consumerreports.org/home/2010/07/best-vacuums-review-sebo-automatic-x5-lindhaus-diamante-380-miele-s-2120-olympus-aerus-lux-legacy-lu.html (sorry forgot link earlier) 
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| CarmineD 
     
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	|  | Re: Inside Consumer Reports Test Labs: New vacuums from Aerus, Electrolux, Lindhaus, Miele, Panasonic, and Sebo Reply #13   Feb 15, 2011 2:48 am
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Hi Venson: Perhaps Consumer Reports shuns the ultra high priced models because of its own budget restrictions and limitations.   No excuse for CR to withhold details for HOOVER and Electrolux brands and models if the brands do not meet CR's reliability standards.  Give consumers and the vacuum makers the CR standards and let us determine if the brands/models fall short. Carmine D. |  
| vacmanuk 
     
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	|  | Re: Inside Consumer Reports Test Labs: New vacuums from Aerus, Electrolux, Lindhaus, Miele, Panasonic, and Sebo Reply #14   Feb 16, 2011 3:42 pm
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 Hi Venson: Perhaps Consumer Reports shuns the ultra high priced models because of its own budget restrictions and limitations.   No excuse for CR to withhold details for HOOVER and Electrolux brands and models if the brands do not meet CR's reliability standards.  Give consumers and the vacuum makers the CR standards and let us determine if the brands/models fall short. Carmine D.Ah But Carmine, if CR were to give truer findings, they'd probably lose the sponsorship from the companies who loan out the vacuum cleaners or strike a deal. On EBAY UK there are many models appearing that have been quoted, "used for a professional testing organisation," under the "manufacturer refurbished," tag recently - and one can't help wondering if these "professional testing organisations," include Which? consumer mag and other likewise testing fields. Those models have a set price, much lower than the brand new boxed one in the shops/online. |  
| CarmineD 
     
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	|  | Re: Inside Consumer Reports Test Labs: New vacuums from Aerus, Electrolux, Lindhaus, Miele, Panasonic, and Sebo Reply #15   Feb 16, 2011 4:38 pm
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 Ah But Carmine, if CR were to give truer findings, they'd probably lose the sponsorship from the companies who loan out the vacuum cleaners or strike a deal. On EBAY UK there are many models appearing that have been quoted, "used for a professional testing organisation," under the "manufacturer refurbished," tag recently - and one can't help wondering if these "professional testing organisations," include Which? consumer mag and other likewise testing fields. Those models have a set price, much lower than the brand new boxed one in the shops/online. Hi Vacmanuk:
 CR buys its products for testing and refuses sponsorship from all and any product makers.  Says it does this to remain independent and honest.  Unlike Consumers Digest which solicits fees from product makers to allow the makers to use the CD recommendation in printed ads.   Carmine D. |  
| Venson 
     
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	|  | Re: Inside Consumer Reports Test Labs: New vacuums from Aerus, Electrolux, Lindhaus, Miele, Panasonic, and Sebo Reply #16   Feb 17, 2011 3:37 am
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 Hi Vacmanuk: CR buys its products for testing and refuses sponsorship from all and any product makers.  Says it does this to remain independent and honest.  Unlike Consumers Digest which solicits fees from product makers to allow the makers to use the CD recommendation in printed ads.   Carmine D.
 These claims are the only reason I've bother with Consumer Reports over the years.  I pay little attention to Consumers Digest or Good Houskeeping's Seal of Approval.  Does Which? bear the same standard or does it get funding from manufacturers?
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| Venson 
     
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	|  | Re: Inside Consumer Reports Test Labs: New vacuums from Aerus, Electrolux, Lindhaus, Miele, Panasonic, and Sebo Reply #17   Feb 17, 2011 3:37 am
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 Hi Vacmanuk: CR buys its products for testing and refuses sponsorship from all and any product makers.  Says it does this to remain independent and honest.  Unlike Consumers Digest which solicits fees from product makers to allow the makers to use the CD recommendation in printed ads.   Carmine D.
 These claims are the only reason I've bother with Consumer Reports over the years.  I pay little attention to Consumers Digest or Good Houskeeping's Seal of Approval.  Does Which? bear the same standard or does it get funding from manufacturers?
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| CarmineD 
     
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	|  | Re: Inside Consumer Reports Test Labs: New vacuums from Aerus, Electrolux, Lindhaus, Miele, Panasonic, and Sebo Reply #20   Feb 17, 2011 3:52 am
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 These claims are the only reason I've bother with Consumer Reports over the years.  I pay little attention to Consumers Digest or Good Houskeeping's Seal of Approval.  Does Which? bear the same standard or does it get funding from manufacturers? Venson 
 Hello Venson:
 You along with 20 MILLION monthly readers of Consumer Reports.  While I don't subscribe to CR, save for gifts of subscriptions given to me over the years, I do make it a point of buying selected CR issues off the shelf.  Usually at COSTCO where the price is discounted from the newstand and store prices by 30 percent.  Carmine D. |  |  |