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Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Why Dyson is different.
Original Message   Jul 10, 2010 4:06 am
A really cool insight to the workings behind the company and how they develop what I believe to be some the most well designed vacuums with overall good-great build quality in history.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Why Dyson is different.
Reply #65   Jul 24, 2010 7:03 am
Hertz wrote:
I know everything about a Dyson in and out - if they fail (which, unfortunately, half of them don't turn on but their filters were so clogged due to poor maintenance most likely their motors burnt out) then given Dysons QUALITY design and intelligent layout, one can very doable user-replace the motor and/or brushes. The motor unit housing the non-ball ones (and even the ball ones) is higher quality, higher grade plastic and VERY high quality seals that alone is better than half the china junk, JUST THAT PIECE probably has overall more dense plastic that china-specials, at least quality wise if you can even quantify such a measurement, but my point is the same none the less.


Of course you say that, you have a dozen dyson junks you bought.  What was it that P.T. Barnum said?

Carmine D.

PS:  If 6 of the 12 dysons don't run and you suspect motors are the problem/and they actually are shot, then you didn't buy the cream of the crap or pure crap as you like to call it.  You just bought plain and simple every day run of the mill crap.  Period.  They must have seen/smelled you coming a mile away.  They jumped through hoops backwards to unload the pallets of the junkiest of the junk dysons they could muster.  I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they send you a Christmas gift this year for your generosity.  Another junk dyson. 

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vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Why Dyson is different.
Reply #66   Jul 24, 2010 8:51 pm
  Hertz wrote:
I know everything about a Dyson in and out - if they fail (which, unfortunately, half of them don't turn on but their filters were so clogged due to poor maintenance most likely their motors burnt out) then given Dysons QUALITY design and intelligent layout, one can very doable user-replace the motor and/or brushes. The motor unit housing the non-ball ones (and even the ball ones) is higher quality, higher grade plastic and VERY high quality seals that alone is better than half the china junk, JUST THAT PIECE probably has overall more dense plastic that china-specials, at least quality wise if you can even quantify such a measurement, but my point is the same none the less.

You dont know your xxxx from your elbow, mate! But then all along you've been comparing your Miele "Air Clean" filter to Dysons which is a bit unfair and also comparing a bagged vacuum with bagless, which is also unfair. I only realised going through your unfair posts before. Super Air Clean by any chance, the most basic of Miele filters? Try the HEPA cartridge and compare like with like. Good luck with your Dysons.

Your point is FLAWED regarding Dyson and their quality but then you're only basing it on 12 abused models. Once yet again, unless you spend premium, brand new I suggest that you keep going along in your deluded little world of what you class as premium. You were only going on about Electrolux's Ultra only a few weeks ago, a bagged cleaner no less. Save up your day job salary and buy new.
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Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Why Dyson is different.
Reply #67   Jul 29, 2010 7:55 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
 
You dont know your xxxx from your elbow, mate! But then all along you've been comparing your Miele "Air Clean" filter to Dysons which is a bit unfair and also comparing a bagged vacuum with bagless, which is also unfair. I only realised going through your unfair posts before. Super Air Clean by any chance, the most basic of Miele filters? Try the HEPA cartridge and compare like with like. Good luck with your Dysons.

Your point is FLAWED regarding Dyson and their quality but then you're only basing it on 12 abused models. Once yet again, unless you spend premium, brand new I suggest that you keep going along in your deluded little world of what you class as premium. You were only going on about Electrolux's Ultra only a few weeks ago, a bagged cleaner no less. Save up your day job salary and buy new.


**(portion deleted by Moderator, because of inapporpriate content)** You're the one who can't get w/ the truth and realize and appreciate Dysons incredible build quality; again, their just dirty - not BROKEN, and if anything me seeing them in this abused condition and being able to CLEAN THEM UP LIKE-NEW really is a testament to their quality that you're too incapable of comprehending (apparently). W/e man, at least your intelligent enough to realize that Miele's and SEBO's are quality machines, so I won't call you a complete crap head ;) Hahaha
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vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Why Dyson is different.
Reply #68   Jul 29, 2010 8:08 pm
A testament to their quality was tested the day they were thrown out, numbnuts.
Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Why Dyson is different.
Reply #69   Aug 7, 2010 12:50 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
A testament to their quality was tested the day they were thrown out, numbnuts.


Were you deprived of oxygen from putting a vacuum bag over your head? Seriously though; You basically lost the whole argument if you feel like you need to start calling names. How pathetic and child like. I wouldn't be surprised if your best friend is 10 years old to be honest. You find SEBOs and Miele's thrown out, as well. By your dumb ass logic they must be "junk", too. Buddy I've taken Dysons apart DOWN TO THE BONE, and they are *VERY* well built, with durable plastic all throughout. A testament to their quality is still running and taking the licking they did and still basically looking very good. The plastic they use is even the same color all through out - NOT painted, but ALL the plastic IS the color you see, which in that regard is better quality than even a SEBO or Miele.
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Why Dyson is different.
Reply #70   Aug 7, 2010 9:15 pm
Hertz wrote:
Were you deprived of oxygen from putting a vacuum bag over your head? Seriously though; You basically lost the whole argument if you feel like you need to start calling names. How pathetic and child like. I wouldn't be surprised if your best friend is 10 years old to be honest. You find SEBOs and Miele's thrown out, as well. By your dumb ass logic they must be "junk", too. Buddy I've taken Dysons apart DOWN TO THE BONE, and they are *VERY* well built, with durable plastic all throughout. A testament to their quality is still running and taking the licking they did and still basically looking very good. The plastic they use is even the same color all through out - NOT painted, but ALL the plastic IS the color you see, which in that regard is better quality than even a SEBO or Miele.

Oh Grow up Hertz! One minute you're arguing about Electrolux vacuums like the Ultra for being so technologically advanced in one corner (Yet, you don't own one), then praising Kirby machines, then Dyson. Dont you sound a little bit silly? I dont give a shi* how many Dysons you have repaired, how many Dysons you find that are better built - THE EVIDENCE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF by going onto EBAY UK or any other online market like EBAY where you will find that the majority of second hand vacuums are Dyson. You'll find there are MORE Dysons sold refurbished, more Dyson vacs sold second hand and more Dysons that have been split apart for spares. What does this tell you? Well it tells me quite a few things other than the popularity that Dyson bestows...

Quality doesn't just count the colour or the strength of the plastic, infact it is IMPOSSIBLE to define what a quality vacuum cleaner is dependent on the buyers needs and the buyers use of it. If you find a whole load of Dysons that have only lasted something like 3 to 5 years, and paid top dollar for it, I'd say there's something wrong in the supposed "quality" of the vacuum in question, particularly if Dyson claim that their models are lifetime or have a number of years in which to counteract their model's longevity.  A quality vacuum in my eyes is 10 years old and with its original motor intact.
Actionvac


Joined: Oct 22, 2008
Points: 80

Re: Why Dyson is different.
Reply #71   Aug 10, 2010 1:02 pm
If you walk into boxmart and look at the vacuums of course Dyson is your best choice, if you can afford it, Hoover Tempo if you can't, but you can't compare to Sebo, Miele or Riccar Vibrance line
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Why Dyson is different.
Reply #72   Aug 11, 2010 8:25 am
Actionvac wrote:
If you walk into boxmart and look at the vacuums of course Dyson is your best choice, if you can afford it, Hoover Tempo if you can't, but you can't compare to Sebo, Miele or Riccar Vibrance line

Well, perhaps UK buyers are more savvy when it comes to brand choice. In terms of brands available at our Comet stores for example, DYSON used to have the largest number of models to view. Now there are 9 uprights compared to 9 Vax uprights, 5 cylinders compared to 13 Miele models. That tells me a lot; more brands more choice. No longer Dyson being the biggest amount on display.
Actionvac


Joined: Oct 22, 2008
Points: 80

Re: Why Dyson is different.
Reply #73   Aug 11, 2010 10:58 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Well, perhaps UK buyers are more savvy when it comes to brand choice. In terms of brands available at our Comet stores for example, DYSON used to have the largest number of models to view. Now there are 9 uprights compared to 9 Vax uprights, 5 cylinders compared to 13 Miele models. That tells me a lot; more brands more choice. No longer Dyson being the biggest amount on display.


Well in the USA consumers have the choice of Dyson or a bunch of China made garbage in box stores mostly (some Miele in Bed bath Beyond stores) for the better models they have to find an independant vac dealer like me
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Why Dyson is different.
Reply #74   Aug 11, 2010 12:09 pm
Things may well change due to lifestyle and consumers needs.
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