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Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Original Message   Jul 2, 2010 1:18 am
Is it TTI or still Panasonic?
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #11   Jul 5, 2010 6:55 am
Hertz wrote:
Wait, so you just took the time out to reply with that but not answer my question? That's funny; A bit sad, though. THE WORLD IS A BETTER PLACE NOW CARMINE! Phew, that was a close one! It's not that big of a deal though; I evidently was the one at fault; I just hope you didn't have such an emotional hissy fit as you seem to have had over it, haha. Nicely done though man, haha. I could care less about it, and you should too. Care to ACTUALLY answer my question? Don't waste your time again.
Hertz wrote:
My response the first saying "I was obviously the one at fault" is being realizing I was wrong and admitting. Drop this stupid vandetta and learn to move on. I admitted I made a Boo-Boo! By the way, you insulted me first, and with that in mind you're being a hypocrite yet again! W/e though, I'm done man. Have a happy 4th! P.S - I hate baseball.


Yes, but you trivialized your mistake to avoid giving an apology and impugning my reasons for drawing the mistake to your attention.  This is an indication that you have not grown up yet.  The only vendetta, if you want to call it that, is between you and your parents and/or the adults who raised you.  Though the blame I suspect may reside more with you than them.

Carmine D.

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Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #12   Jul 5, 2010 9:10 pm
CarmineD wrote:

Yes, but you trivialized your mistake to avoid giving an apology and impugning my reasons for drawing the mistake to your attention.  This is an indication that you have not grown up yet.  The only vendetta, if you want to call it that, is between you and your parents and/or the adults who raised you.  Though the blame I suspect may reside more with you than them.

Carmine D.



You're obviously the one who needs to grow up. You're still stuck on this like you have no life. Part of being grown up is realizing what matters in life and learning to move on. Obviously this matters more to you then a healthy mental state, which is REALLY immature. Also, don't start talking about people's parents when you know nothing about me or them. JUST STOP. Hahaha
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #13   Jul 5, 2010 9:40 pm
Hertz wrote:
You're obviously the one who needs to grow up. You're still stuck on this like you have no life. Part of being grown up is realizing what matters in life and learning to move on. Obviously this matters more to you then a healthy mental state, which is REALLY immature. Also, don't start talking about people's parents when you know nothing about me or them. JUST STOP. Hahaha


You admit you're wrong but won't apologize to me.  I will apologize for you to your parents/guardians who raised you for your inability to say you're sorry when you are wrong.  I'm sure, they in good parental/guardian conscience, formed your upbringing in a way that taught you right from wrong.  In other words, they raised you the right way.  They would hope and expect you to apologize when you are wrong because that's how they raised you.  Sadly, in my case, for whatever reason only known to you, despite giving you numerous opportunities and several times to do so, you haven't apologized to me for wrongly accusing me of having a bad memory when in fact you do.  Instead, you've gotten obtuse.  I am sorry for you and your parents/guardians.  You wronged them by forgetting what they taught you. 

I suspect had I accused you wrongly of what you accused me, you would be stunningly irate.  You don't know and like the game of basebase.  Perhaps you recall, despite your faulty memory, the golden rule: "Do unto others, as you would want them to do unto you."  I'm sure your parents/guardians taught you this lesson.  Somewhere along the way to your growing up, you forget it.  Bad memory?  Or something worse?  

Actually this is very similar to your question here:  Who makes Kenmore canns now?  Who made you and what happened to you?  Only you know the answer.  I pity you.

Carmine D.

Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #14   Jul 6, 2010 6:09 pm
CarmineD wrote:
You admit you're wrong but won't apologize to me.  I will apologize for you to your parents/guardians who raised you for your inability to say you're sorry when you are wrong.  I'm sure, they in good parental/guardian conscience, formed your upbringing in a way that taught you right from wrong.  In other words, they raised you the right way.  They would hope and expect you to apologize when you are wrong because that's how they raised you.  Sadly, in my case, for whatever reason only known to you, despite giving you numerous opportunities and several times to do so, you haven't apologized to me for wrongly accusing me of having a bad memory when in fact you do.  Instead, you've gotten obtuse.  I am sorry for you and your parents/guardians.  You wronged them by forgetting what they taught you. 

I suspect had I accused you wrongly of what you accused me, you would be stunningly irate.  You don't know and like the game of basebase.  Perhaps you recall, despite your faulty memory, the golden rule: "Do unto others, as you would want them to do unto you."  I'm sure your parents/guardians taught you this lesson.  Somewhere along the way to your growing up, you forget it.  Bad memory?  Or something worse?  

Actually this is very similar to your question here:  Who makes Kenmore canns now?  Who made you and what happened to you?  Only you know the answer.  I pity you.

Carmine D.



Look kid, I don't know who you are, but you really need to stop talking about things you have *NO* idea about. You bringing up something that was old news, mocking me a while back (maybe I misinterpreted you?) and now you acting like a creepy psychotic being is kind of annoying. I pity YOU dude, it's like you have *NOTHING* better to do. Seriously my friends will most likely just look at this and laugh at how misplaced you are. You're biased against truth, you're being hypocritical, and you're emotionally misplaced in which you're pitiful in how you think you're doing a great lesson here. Keep wasting your time buddy, this is getting better and better.
Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #15   Jul 6, 2010 6:17 pm
Better yet, just stop wasting your time. I already apologized, yet you fail to see that, and that's your problem.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #16   Jul 6, 2010 7:01 pm
Hertz wrote:
Better yet, just stop wasting your time. I already apologized, yet you fail to see that, and that's your problem.


I'm sorry.  I must have missed it.  If you did apologize to me, I accept. 

Carmine D.

Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #17   Jul 7, 2010 8:05 am
CarmineD wrote:
I'm sorry.  I must have missed it.  If you did apologize to me, I accept. 

Carmine D.



Good then. I do appreciate you coming to terms with this situation and realizing your mistake, and again, like I did before, I do apologize for having wrongly accused you, but now that you've realized your error as well, and apologize for that, then well: It's all good man. haha, now, care to answer my question or do you not even actually know? If not, does anybody know?! More specifically, who makes the Kenmore Intuitiob? They still all look like Panasonics, but is it possible TTI can still make them LOOK very similar to the older Panasonic-made ones and have that be "legal", and/or is it Kenmore can just hand out the plans to whoever company and have them build them still looking identical to each other? Just curious.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #18   Jul 7, 2010 8:39 am
Hertz wrote:
Good then. I do appreciate you coming to terms with this situation and realizing your mistake, and again, like I did before, I do apologize for having wrongly accused you, but now that you've realized your error as well, and apologize for that, then well: It's all good man. haha, now, care to answer my question or do you not even actually know? If not, does anybody know?! More specifically, who makes the Kenmore Intuitiob? They still all look like Panasonics, but is it possible TTI can still make them LOOK very similar to the older Panasonic-made ones and have that be "legal", and/or is it Kenmore can just hand out the plans to whoever company and have them build them still looking identical to each other? Just curious.


If I recall correctly SEVERUS answered your original question as posted on this thread.  I agree with SEVERUS. 

This is a new and differnt question than before: "More specifically, who makes the Kenmore Intuitiob? " The answer SEVERUS provided applies here too.  The Kenmore Intuition probably is sourced by another maker other than LG.

"is it possible TTI can still make them LOOK very similar to the older Panasonic-made ones and have that be "legal", and/or is it Kenmore can just hand out the plans to whoever company and have them build them still looking identical to each other? Just curious."

IMO, yes, TTI can copy design/style and keep it legal if it does not infringe on patented designs/features still under exclusive rights use by the maker/patent holder.  Additionally the patent holder/company can/may contractually agree to share the exclusive rights for compensation with SEARS/Kenmore in a legally binding agreement which spells out the terms of agreement.

Carmine D.

Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #19   Jul 8, 2010 12:03 am
CarmineD wrote:
If I recall correctly SEVERUS answered your original question as posted on this thread.  I agree with SEVERUS. 

This is a new and differnt question than before: "More specifically, who makes the Kenmore Intuitiob? " The answer SEVERUS provided applies here too.  The Kenmore Intuition probably is sourced by another maker other than LG.

"is it possible TTI can still make them LOOK very similar to the older Panasonic-made ones and have that be "legal", and/or is it Kenmore can just hand out the plans to whoever company and have them build them still looking identical to each other? Just curious."

IMO, yes, TTI can copy design/style and keep it legal if it does not infringe on patented designs/features still under exclusive rights use by the maker/patent holder.  Additionally the patent holder/company can/may contractually agree to share the exclusive rights for compensation with SEARS/Kenmore in a legally binding agreement which spells out the terms of agreement.

Carmine D.



Right, I thought you might have been with-holding even more knowledge than what Severus said. Either way, I'm still curious for a definite answer. I might call Sears soon, haha.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Who makes Kenmore canisters now?
Reply #20   Jul 8, 2010 7:01 am
Hertz wrote:
Right, I thought you might have been with-holding even more knowledge than what Severus said. Either way, I'm still curious for a definite answer. I might call Sears soon, haha.


Might be better going in person and talking with a SEARS person, especially if you can gain a business relationship/friendship with him/her.  Oft times, the SEARS people are ill-informed and just don't know or have wrong information.  Worth corroborating what you are told for confirmation.

If you look at two successful sourced vacuums in recent years in the USA, you'll see EUREKA-ELECTROLUX was oner maker and TTI another.  Wal*Mart contracted with EUREKA-ELECTROLUX to produce, under the GE brand, a line of bagged/bagless uprights and canns.  Very popular sellers from 2000 up to recently.  In 2004 Wal*Mart contracted with HOOVER which sourced to TTI the Fusion and Fusion Plus, bagless uprights for $90-$130.  The contract ran 2 years.  Also very popular sellers.  I recall several, who no longer post here, threatening dyson would sue HOOVER over the shroud/see-thru bin as well as other features Fusion features supposedly copied from dyson.  HOOVER laughed it off and W*M all the way to the bank.  This was before TTI acquired HOOVER from Whirpool in 2007.

Carmine D.

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