Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hi Carmine

Agree and disagree.....a bi-weekly cleaning of the roller and end caps is a good rule of thumb to follow....and one i try to show my customers.
The oreck is a pretty great vac....a multi-purpose tool but thicker older style carpets really bog it down.....but the service and nohassle guarentee make it a no lose situation.

The floating head i feel ...just does better. with the proper roller and power it is quite the deep cleaner on the riccars and panasonics....what i prefer and has the brushroll head weight to float or glide across the most demanding carpets..     then again the height ajst on the tempos and sanit comm is hard to beat....so i guess we agree to disagree my friend.

turtle

Who would have thought an ORECK XL Classic for $150 new could sail across medium pile wool loop rug that bogs down a DC07 for $399 with its gawdawful screeching clutch that stops the brushbar.  The proof was in the using and still doing so after 3 years.

Carmine D.

I used my DC07 to vacuum plush wool carpet in a home that I inherited.  The carpet was 40 years old.  The Dyson never faltered and the carpet received no damage.

No doubt the Oreck would sail over your carpet.  They are for surface cleaning only.  I have to admit that I was vacuuming very expensive carpet.  My DC07 may also have failed on a builder grade carpet.

Look at the facts not the fiction.  After only 7 years yours was discontinued by dyson, tho you bailed out of it after only 3 and didn't buy a new dyson.  We know the reason.  You upgraded your carpets, 40 years is a bit seasoned even for my liking.  [Did the carpet maker/installer advise you that the rug warranty was void if you use a dyson like we were told by our home builder and his primary carpet contractor].  After 45 years, the same basic ORECK model is going strong and still certified [Gold, its highest seal of approval] by the Carpet and Rug Institute [unlike your fave brand].  I bought 3 more ORECKs just like it.  $150 for the ORECK versus $399 for a dyson.  Not a hardsell unless you are a hard head.

Carmine D.

Turtle:

WRT carpet types and vacuums, if a home has a diverse mix of carpets and thicknesses, I prefer and recommend the height adjustment over self-floating.  If its wall to wall and all the same same, self-adjusting w/o adjustments would do the trick.  Having said that, I still like to adjust the vacuum height to my own liking rather than let the vacuum do it.  Or if primarily floor with carpeting compliments and smallish in size [1700 sq ft with 1000 floor and 700 carpet], like my home, definitely an ORECK.

Carmine D.

FACT:

During the 3 years that I owned a Dyson you preached doom and gloom for Dyson on every vacuum forum available.  In desperation to stay afloat Hoover introduced a new SKU every other month.  No improvements, just another model # (mostly).  With each introduction you told us how it that model would be the demise of Dyson.  I told you to get in the life boat before you sunk.  You refused and your ship sunk while I am afloat.  Dyson put a whooping on Hoover.  I was able to sell my DC07 while you had to gift the Hoovers to get them out of the way.  I did not buy another Dyson because I like variety.  Take note that I did not replace the DC07 with an electric broom.  Sorry, I meant Oreck.  Isn't it odd that you are now buying Oreck and not Hoover?  For Oreck's sake I hope that your support for them like it was for Hoover doesn't sink their boat.  They have had top take desperate measures just to stay afloat.  Now in big box stores and advertising low,low,low prices on local TV. 

As usual you can't get your imagined facts seperated from the truth.  I never upgraded any carpet in my home in the last 7 years.

The carpet that I referred to belonged to an 85 year old widow.  It was high quality and never abused so she had no justifiable reason to replace.  Unless she just wanted another look. 40 years is a long time for carpet.  So is 45 years for a vacuum that has not changed with the times.  45 years back carpet was more a luxury than a standard.  I am sure the Oreck cleaned fairly well on the linoleum back then. 

FACT:  You didn't answer my question. 

I always know when you're caught.  Your posts get historically fictional and more angry.  Here's the real history.  You were gifted a new dyson DC07, actually a refurb.  You say [to look good] you bought it from BEST BUY and paid an extra $49 for the ESP.  Must really have been impressed with the quality of dyson DC07 and planned to keep it awhile.  One would think since you paid an extra $50. Tried it out for a couple of years on 40 year old carpet.  Nothing changed.  Carpet still looked raggedy.  So you splurged.  You upgraded the worn rug areas with new floors.  Buy a new amount of floors and scrub the raggedy carpet.  Wouldn't you want the best vacuum to protect your investment?  Yes, of course, so what do you do?  You sell your new dyson with the ESP after the rug installer says the rugs have years worth of dirt in it, in the backing, and under.  What do you buy?  A Royal Emminence upright with tools on board for $299 from an indy.  Consumer Reports says the Royal Emminence is mediocre on carpets, just like a dyson DC07 you sold.  What do you do now?  You buy a new Kirby Sentria and alternate vacuuming between both the Kirby and Royal for awhile.  Then you decide ehh, I have to try something else.  In January [or thereabouts] of this year you buy and use [still supposedly] a HOOVER bagged Platinum lightweight.  Like the others, you use it once a week, normally.  It's picking up more dirt than ALL the others {and now you have 250 less sq feet of rug].  Well, dah, of course.  It's a HOOVER with WT technology for $299.  Excellent choice but a full size HOOVER would do the job much quicker.  Even a HOOVER TEMPO w/o WT tech for $85 would be great.  And, you would have saved money on the original purchase and the cost of bags in the future.  Doesn't have to be a hardsell.  You just have to use your head.

Carmine D.

FACT:  You are the one who is caught twisting the truth as always.  Your quote that I responded to was prior to your editing the post. Therefore there was no question to answer.  My only anger is with your dishonesty, though I have come to expect it.

I already told you how I won a brand new DC07 from the Oreck salesman.  Actually the ESP was more like $30.  That is hard to pass up when all I had to do was take the vac in and get a brand new replacement if mine failed.  Before you spout off that was the way the ESP worked back then. 

I used it once on the 40 year old carpet to prep it for sale of the home that was inherited (wasn't my residence).  Did you miss that in your haste to waste all of our time?

The carpet that I replaced in my home with wood was exceptionally clean to the padding.  Installer claimed he had never seen carpet as dirt free. 

I did want the best vacuum.  That elimanated Oreck.  Dyson wasn't available when I had my carpet installed.  My carpet is a higher grade than builder grade so I wasn't concerned with damage from the Dyson.  I have read reports of Hoovers damaging carpet so I am cautious with the Platinum. I would really be concerned with that cheapo Hoover like you use. 

How quickly you forget.  The Platinum was $399 in January.

If your lies stretched your anatomy other than your nose you could lay off Viagra entirely.

Do you speak from personal experience my friend?

BTW, I am not the least bit surprised that when push comes to shove you chose HOOVER with WT technology over all others.  I have said here for years and years, thanks to SEVERUS' coining of the expression, that the HOOVER WT is the gold standard of rug cleaning.  Coincidently, so has Consumer Reports said so on many occasions and this particular model you bought was rated number 2 in the upright lineup by CR.  Ironic isn't it.  Two icons, like them or not, that you drudge here constantly.  BUT in the final analysis you end up following and using both.  What's next in the HS household:  An ORECK?

You got taken on the price: $399.  They're being sold pervasively at half that price now.  In fact, were sold at $299 by BEST BUY as early as June of 2009 when the HOOVER bagged platinum lightweight and companion compact canister first launched.  Obviously in direct competition to ORECK.  In marketing it's called follow the leader.

HAVE A HAPPY AND HEALTHY MEMORIAL DAY.

Carmine D.