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hooverman


Joined: Jan 10, 2010
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Filter Queen
Original Message   Mar 15, 2010 11:39 pm
I love my Filter Queen vacs so far; but want to know if the 360 style tools are good/bad or the old style tools are better?  Mine are the brown & salmon mdls (salmon one is suction-only; brown one has Mdl 88 Power Nozzle)

this is my mdl 31 Filterqueen

This message was modified Mar 21, 2010 by hooverman
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mole


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Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: Filter Queen
Reply #27   Mar 25, 2010 7:26 am
Well Carmine its really not worth doing it as far as a cost standpoint .It will happen again very quickly

Just see what happens when you tell your customers the DOG needs to go.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Filter Queen
Reply #28   Mar 25, 2010 7:58 am
mole wrote:
Well Carmine its really not worth doing it as far as a cost standpoint .It will happen again very quickly

Just see what happens when you tell your customers the DOG needs to go.



Hi MOLE:

Not going to happen.  She and family are taken by the dog [after 7 years] but she got taken by dyson after 4.  The dyson will go and more than likely be replaced with a bagged upright vacuum, which she had and used before the dyson DC07 Animal.  She had odors but a bag and filter replacements corrected.  She'll vent to dyson and BAF.  On a positive note, the LV retailer where she purchased the dyson is agreeable to perhaps giving her a partial credit on the original cost of the DC07 for a new bagged upright replacement.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Filter Queen
Reply #29   Mar 25, 2010 9:46 am
mole wrote:
When servicing the machine that smells like what you described animal pet odors is really the oil off the animals hair .Ever see the black gunk build up on the brush rolls?

The whole machine from front to back must be torn down and washed in a hot tank with simple green or something stronger,and that goes for the hose and attachments also.This is a  common problem with customers with long haired dogs that are not cleaned and groomed on a regular basis,[Every week]

This job is labor intensive and  not very pleasant for the person doing it.
I have done many in my  vacuum repair life.



MOLE


Excellent MOLE.  No less than I would expect from a pro. As usual the wannabe pro could not answer the OP's question.  And as usual he hides his inadequate knowledge by getting 180 degrees off topic with the brand that bruised his sitter.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Filter Queen
Reply #30   Mar 25, 2010 12:06 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I can't think of a vac warranty that covers odors.  Me thinks that you BS is smelling as much as any vac.
HARDSELL wrote:
Common sense tells me that any vacuum will omit odors if the odor omitting substance is left in the bag/bin.  Air has to pass through the bag same as the bin.  Hold a rag over your nose while in a port a pottie and it still smells like poop. 

If ol Rover's hair smells so foul he needs a shower. 


HARDSELL wrote:
Excellent MOLE.  No less than I would expect from a pro. As usual the wannabe pro could not answer the OP's question.  And as usual he hides his inadequate knowledge by getting 180 degrees off topic with the brand that bruised his sitter.


Here are the illustrious pronouncements you offered here HS.  And not one mention of baking soda?  I thought for sure you'd say throw some cheap Arm & Hammer BS into the luxury toyota and bagless bin to veil the toxic fumes and puke perfume odors.  What happened?  True to form.  You give up on it like you did dyson's DC07.  Smart move.  See I knew you weren't as dumb as you sound.  Next you'll be telling us to put nitrogen in our tires and claiming credit for the brilliant idea.

Seems others here have been bruised in their smellers by dysons too.  Don't take my word, read it yourself:  Better yet have someone who can, read it to you.

Carmine D.

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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Filter Queen
Reply #31   Mar 25, 2010 12:36 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Venson:

As you know the fans and motor parts gets coated with dirt.  Cakes on too.  If the FQ vacuum sat unused for any long time the puke perfume smell gets absorbed into the caked on dirt in the motor parts and cavity.  Lingers on forever unless the parts and pieces are completely disassembeld, cleaned thoroughly down to the surfaces, or better replaced out.

Carmine D.



Hi Carmine,

I'm only offering the simplest solutions I can think of in this case.  None of the Filter Queens I've owned goit in that condition as the cellulose cone did amazing things. The filter cones were always seated properly and the secondary filters were always in place.  Never had a problem and everything after the filter cones stayed c;lean as a whistle except for a small amount of carbon dust off the brushes.

However (not meaning to beat a dead horse), from the look of it, the machine in question has been badly mishandled.  Unless you're a real technician, this is the kind of thing you clean up and de-funk as best you can as the cost to set it really right won't be worth it.  For what you'd pay you can buy either a fully fitted out used or re-furbed model in tip-top shape for the same money..

Venson

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Filter Queen
Reply #32   Mar 25, 2010 12:42 pm
Venson wrote:
Hi Carmine,

I'm only offering the simplest solutions I can think of in this case.  None of the Filter Queens I've owned goit in that condition as the cellulose cone did amazing things. The filter cones were always seated properly and the secondary filters were always in place.  Never had a problem and everything after the filter cones stayed c;lean as a whistle except for a small amount of carbon dust off the brushes.

However (not meaning to beat a dead horse), from the look of it, the machine in question has been badly mishandled.  Unless you're a real technician, this is the kind of thing you clean up and de-funk as best you can as the cost to set it really right won't be worth it.  For what you'd pay you can buy either a fully fitted out used or re-furbed model in tip-top shape for the same money..

Venson


Hi Venson:  Thoroughly agree with you on this 50 year old FQ AND I would add for HS's benefit on the lady customer's 4 year old dyson DC07. 

Carmine D.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Filter Queen
Reply #33   Mar 25, 2010 12:58 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Venson:  Thoroughly agree with you on this 50 year old FQ AND I would add for HS's benefit on the lady customer's 4 year old dyson DC07. 

Carmine D.



Hi,

This one's around thirty-something.  A year or two prior the model fitted for a PN.  It has the two-speed switch (look just below the attachment crown) and the rug tool has a bumper.  Nonetheless, it is not a rarity and can be found on eBay just about any day of the week.

Best,

Venson

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Filter Queen
Reply #34   Mar 25, 2010 1:22 pm
Thanks Venson:  Like dyson's odor filled DC07, this bagless FQ puke perfumed cann makes a good door stop for a lumber yard.

Carmine D.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Filter Queen
Reply #35   Mar 25, 2010 1:29 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Thanks Venson:  Like dyson's odor filled DC07, this bagless FQ puke perfumed cann makes a good door stop for a lumber yard.

Carmine D.



I well understand.  I've got two Rexair Bs that I'm going to have made into table lamps one of these years.

Venson

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Filter Queen
Reply #36   Mar 25, 2010 2:17 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Thank you but ...........this is resolution therapy after the fact not before.  I can see these procedures employed for a 50 year old FQ but a 4 year old dyson DC07?  Still under warranty?  Are these service procs reasonably probable and practical for dyson users on DC07 and 14 models to rid them of musty dirt and pet odors while still under warranty?  I think not.  I think they are unreasonable and even if employed are rarely effective.  Why?  These dyson models have unrealistic filter maintenance schedules [6-9 months for cleaning is too long and prone to hold odors] and the convoluted dirt paths and components on these dyson models.  Once the odors set in these dyson models it is virtually impossible to remove even with your remedies.  Why?  A user/repair tech can't replace/clean all the ports and parts where the tell tale odors remain and are emitted.  Many of which are permament and can't be removed/replaced like the brush bar.  These odor holding places get worse over time.  The users' remedy for these models with musty dirt and pet odors is with dyson, the BAF and the retailers.  Especially while still under warranty.

If you got stuck with one of these dyson models unbeknownst about the odors, what would you do if it were still under warranty.

Thanks,

Carmine D.


Carmine - warranties do NOT cover dust smells - it is upto the owner who cleans their vacuums out and the filter maintenance. After all, do buyers send back their ovens when the "stay clean" liners are dirty? I dont think so! There are so many buyers I know who have NOT read the manual and have installed a damp filter back into a vacuum cleaner hoping that in some of the construction and design, the actual vacuum will dry out the filter. Not so! Indeed when I sent my Vax Mach Air back to Vax following a hinge damage on the floor head that turned out to be a design fault they threatened to charge anyone who sends back a vacuum with a dirty filter by charging them £35. This charge is not unheard of; Miele and Sebo also frown upon machines having at least a clean filter if it is to be sent back in for suction / filter repairs.. Infact I do believe that Dyson user manuals state the filters "should be washed around 6 months," but they also state clearly that if the filter is looking dirty, it should be washed in a shorter time..
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