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Hertz


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Dysons filtration?
Original Message   Feb 10, 2010 12:46 pm
How sealed are Dysons? And how good is their filtration? I know the uprights - at least the older, older ones like the DC07 and such might have potential problems with sealing, such as show in this video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ However there could simply be something wrong w/ that one, who knows. BUT ANYWAYS, are the NEWER uprights COMPLETELY sealed? What about their canisters, such as the DC22, 23? Like does any air blow out of the cord reel or such, or ONLY out of the exhaust where it's SUPPOSED to come out from?
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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #9   Feb 11, 2010 8:35 am
Hertz wrote:
How sealed are Dysons? And how good is their filtration? I know the uprights - at least the older, older ones like the DC07 and such might have potential problems with sealing, such as show in this video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ However there could simply be something wrong w/ that one, who knows. BUT ANYWAYS, are the NEWER uprights COMPLETELY sealed? What about their canisters, such as the DC22, 23? Like does any air blow out of the cord reel or such, or ONLY out of the exhaust where it's SUPPOSED to come out from?

Hertz,

 

This Miele dealer is a con man and brazen or real stupid.  I think the latter.  I can go on and on, but the most obvious of his tricks is the camera angle of the so-called pre-motor filter cover leak.  This idiot is dropping the kapok into the exhaust air and claiming the vac has a leak (@pre-motor filter cover). The camera angle fools the viewer.  This dope, wants the viewer to believe the suction side…I’ll repeat, the suction side is leaking (blowing air).  The suction side sucks, there is no leak at the pre-motor filter cover prior to him tugging on it or pushing the thumb release (can be seen on video, he does it very quickly), so to measure with the particle counter, and not blowing.

 

Do you see any Miele Dealers on this forum getting upset at this con man?

 

The dishonesty of the Dyson bad-mouthers here runs deep.  They could of/should of told you what I just did, but they didn’t.

 

Dyson Invents Big.

This message was modified Feb 11, 2010 by DysonInventsBig



Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #10   Feb 11, 2010 11:33 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
You are unstoppable and pure comedy.



Dustmite,

Please tell me what you disagree with.   I have clearly stated that most Dyson uprights are very good bagless vacuums that are approved by Asthma Foundations in the US and Britain.   You don't vacuum in a vacuum - there are other sources of air movement - like your HVAC.   Most allergy sites advise against bagless vacuums for people with serious allergies - or to at least have someone else dump the canister. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #11   Feb 11, 2010 12:52 pm
See it just doesn't matter - if its bagless despite any brand including Dyson, it will always prove to be a health hazard.
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #12   Feb 11, 2010 1:05 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
See it just doesn't matter - if its bagless despite any brand including Dyson, it will always prove to be a health hazard.

Dump in a water-mist lined bag (slight amount of water) and use a little technique and little to no health hazard (plume).

All bags choke when Dyson's don't (if maintained and has a zero dollar cost).  Allergy suffers are better off lifting and removing allergens from carpeting...something a choking bag vacuum or choked out bag cannot deliver.


DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #13   Feb 11, 2010 1:06 pm
Severus wrote:
Dustmite,

Please tell me what you disagree with.   I have clearly stated that most Dyson uprights are very good bagless vacuums that are approved by Asthma Foundations in the US and Britain.   You don't vacuum in a vacuum - there are other sources of air movement - like your HVAC.   Most allergy sites advise against bagless vacuums for people with serious allergies - or to at least have someone else dump the canister. 


Two-Faces,

You won’t even play fair with a newcomer.  Why won’t you help Hertz or whomever and point out that the vav-goof dealer is a lowlife lying slight-of-hand con man, as has been discussed here in the past?  Even Mole and the guys on the collector forum laugh at this Miele rep, but not you.  And where is Miele Corp.?  Why are they allowing him to lie, why don’t they shut him down?  He’s embarrassing!...don’t you think?



Dyson Invents Big


Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #14   Feb 11, 2010 1:13 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Two-Faces,

You won’t even play fair with a newcomer.  Why won’t you help Hertz or whomever and point out that the vav-goof dealer is a lowlife lying slight-of-hand con man, as has been discussed here in the past?  Even Mole and the guys on the collector forum laugh at this Miele rep, but not you.  And where is Miele Corp.?  Why are they allowing him to lie, why don’t they shut him down?  He’s embarrassing!...don’t you think?



Dyson Invents Big



Dustmite,

Don't get your panties in a wad.  Dysons aren't meant for the tiny percentage of people who have really serious allergies.  Miele does make 0 emissions vacuum - confirmed by independent lab tests.  It's expensive, and the bags and filters are expensive.  If you have a medical condition, you likely need to spend the money on such things.  

Have you repeated the man's tests with your own particle counter?  Or does Dyson even claim to have 0 emissions?  If not, then let it go.  It's really not a big deal.  Given that Hertz has no problem emptying a bagless vacuum, it isn't even important whether Dyson is completely sealed.  Completely sealed is for people who live in bubbles or have serious medical conditions.  The wind blowing will expose you to more allergens than you'll be exposed to with most modern vacuum cleaners. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #15   Feb 11, 2010 2:27 pm
Severus wrote:
Dustmite,

Don't get your panties in a wad.  Dysons aren't meant for the tiny percentage of people who have really serious allergies.  Miele does make 0 emissions vacuum - confirmed by independent lab tests.  It's expensive, and the bags and filters are expensive.  If you have a medical condition, you likely need to spend the money on such things.  

Have you repeated the man's tests with your own particle counter?  Or does Dyson even claim to have 0 emissions?  If not, then let it go.  It's really not a big deal.  Given that Hertz has no problem emptying a bagless vacuum, it isn't even important whether Dyson is completely sealed.  Completely sealed is for people who live in bubbles or have serious medical conditions.  The wind blowing will expose you to more allergens than you'll be exposed to with most modern vacuum cleaners. 


Look Goof,

Straight men do not wear panties...get it straight!

This guy has been established as a con by many vac guys.  I can care less if you get-it.


Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #16   Feb 11, 2010 4:40 pm
DIB, QUIT INSULTING PEOPLE! It makes you look like a child! I really appreciate you're passion for Dysons, but please, for your own sake, stop insulting people who don't agree with you - argue sure, but "goof"? No need dude, unless you were simply kidding around :P I do however agree that this guy is simply a Miele suck up as he even sates that "Sebo's are not sealed vacuums" - BAHAHAHAHA! What a chump. Anyways, I'm really curious if Dysons are completely sealed from a Design standpoint - like how much effort did they put in to make sure the system is air tight. This matters because A.) Dust will fly into the other housings of the unit and gunk it up and B.) Air born allergens from outside aren't as harmful as those being sucked out of the rug. Either way, I'm sure it's not a big deal in terms of vacuuming cleanliness, as they're obviously sealed ENOUGH, but I'm just wondering if they're COMPLETELY sealed? Can someone at least answer if there's any air coming out of the cord rewind on the canister models?
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #17   Feb 11, 2010 6:00 pm
Yet again Dib your argument about choking bags is flawed - if they contain dust in the first place then they aren't harming the lungs as much as Dyson or any other bin that requires secondary cleaning on the filters. And that's before you even touch the pre and after motor filters that are caked in dust on many bagless vacs. Just because you can't see the dust doesnt mean it's not airborne the moment a bagless cyclonic dust bin has been opened.
Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #18   Feb 11, 2010 6:00 pm
Hertz wrote:
DIB, QUIT INSULTING PEOPLE! It makes you look like a child! I really appreciate you're passion for Dysons, but please, for your own sake, stop insulting people who don't agree with you - argue sure, but "goof"? No need dude, unless you were simply kidding around :P I do however agree that this guy is simply a Miele suck up as he even sates that "Sebo's are not sealed vacuums" - BAHAHAHAHA! What a chump. Anyways, I'm really curious if Dysons are completely sealed from a Design standpoint - like how much effort did they put in to make sure the system is air tight. This matters because A.) Dust will fly into the other housings of the unit and gunk it up and B.) Air born allergens from outside aren't as harmful as those being sucked out of the rug. Either way, I'm sure it's not a big deal in terms of vacuuming cleanliness, as they're obviously sealed ENOUGH, but I'm just wondering if they're COMPLETELY sealed? Can someone at least answer if there's any air coming out of the cord rewind on the canister models?

According to this web site:  http://www.allergybuyersclubshopping.com/dyson-stowaway-dc23-motorhead-canister-vacuum-cleaners.html?itemId=2420, the Dyson DC23 has sealed HEPA filtration - "We tested the sealed HEPA filtration system to confirm that it expels only clean air. The HEPA filter is washable and the vacuum is bagless, which means no vacuum cleaner bag costs! We found that the bin to be hygienic and easy to empty."

There are links to other Dyson vacuums, so you can read their comments on them as well. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
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