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Hertz


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Dysons filtration?
Original Message   Feb 10, 2010 12:46 pm
How sealed are Dysons? And how good is their filtration? I know the uprights - at least the older, older ones like the DC07 and such might have potential problems with sealing, such as show in this video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ However there could simply be something wrong w/ that one, who knows. BUT ANYWAYS, are the NEWER uprights COMPLETELY sealed? What about their canisters, such as the DC22, 23? Like does any air blow out of the cord reel or such, or ONLY out of the exhaust where it's SUPPOSED to come out from?
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Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #5   Feb 10, 2010 4:52 pm
I would consider bagless due to it being the superior option in terms of economics - for both the fiscal aspect and the environment. Finally, I want a vacuum that is COMPLETELY sealed so I have the best filtration that it can offer, and it can be harmful to have that crap released back into the air. Dysons are hygienic to empty so that's a moot point.
Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #6   Feb 10, 2010 4:53 pm
I'm also just straight up CURIOUS as to whether or not Dyson took the time make sure their vacuum is completely sealed.
Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #7   Feb 11, 2010 12:44 am
Hertz wrote:
I would consider bagless due to it being the superior option in terms of economics - for both the fiscal aspect and the environment. Finally, I want a vacuum that is COMPLETELY sealed so I have the best filtration that it can offer, and it can be harmful to have that crap released back into the air. Dysons are hygienic to empty so that's a moot point.

Unless you have a medical condition, it's irrelevant.  The moment you open the bagless canister dust will be released.    If you have no breathing problems emptying a Dyson canister, then you have no need to worry about whether the machine is completely sealed.   Completely sealed vacuums are for people with serious allergies and/or money to burn.   If you have serious allergies then you need a bagged vacuum like a Miele.  For the rest of us, it's overkill.  Do you wear a dust mask when you walk outside? 

Dysons are NOT completely sealed.   The Dyson are what they are.  Most Dyson uprights, according to Consumer Reports, are very good vacuums - just like the other 30 or so vacuums that score at least 60 out of 100 points.  There's no need to pretend that They're something that they're not. 
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The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #8   Feb 11, 2010 2:25 am
Severus wrote:
Unless you have a medical condition, it's irrelevant.  The moment you open the bagless canister dust will be released.    If you have no breathing problems emptying a Dyson canister, then you have no need to worry about whether the machine is completely sealed.   Completely sealed vacuums are for people with serious allergies and/or money to burn.   If you have serious allergies then you need a bagged vacuum like a Miele.  For the rest of us, it's overkill.  Do you wear a dust mask when you walk outside? 

Dysons are NOT completely sealed.   The Dyson are what they are.  Most Dyson uprights, according to Consumer Reports, are very good vacuums - just like the other 30 or so vacuums that score at least 60 out of 100 points.  There's no need to pretend that They're something that they're not. 

You are unstoppable and pure comedy.
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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #9   Feb 11, 2010 8:35 am
Hertz wrote:
How sealed are Dysons? And how good is their filtration? I know the uprights - at least the older, older ones like the DC07 and such might have potential problems with sealing, such as show in this video right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXA0N0V2uOQ However there could simply be something wrong w/ that one, who knows. BUT ANYWAYS, are the NEWER uprights COMPLETELY sealed? What about their canisters, such as the DC22, 23? Like does any air blow out of the cord reel or such, or ONLY out of the exhaust where it's SUPPOSED to come out from?

Hertz,

 

This Miele dealer is a con man and brazen or real stupid.  I think the latter.  I can go on and on, but the most obvious of his tricks is the camera angle of the so-called pre-motor filter cover leak.  This idiot is dropping the kapok into the exhaust air and claiming the vac has a leak (@pre-motor filter cover). The camera angle fools the viewer.  This dope, wants the viewer to believe the suction side…I’ll repeat, the suction side is leaking (blowing air).  The suction side sucks, there is no leak at the pre-motor filter cover prior to him tugging on it or pushing the thumb release (can be seen on video, he does it very quickly), so to measure with the particle counter, and not blowing.

 

Do you see any Miele Dealers on this forum getting upset at this con man?

 

The dishonesty of the Dyson bad-mouthers here runs deep.  They could of/should of told you what I just did, but they didn’t.

 

Dyson Invents Big.

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Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #10   Feb 11, 2010 11:33 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
You are unstoppable and pure comedy.



Dustmite,

Please tell me what you disagree with.   I have clearly stated that most Dyson uprights are very good bagless vacuums that are approved by Asthma Foundations in the US and Britain.   You don't vacuum in a vacuum - there are other sources of air movement - like your HVAC.   Most allergy sites advise against bagless vacuums for people with serious allergies - or to at least have someone else dump the canister. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #11   Feb 11, 2010 12:52 pm
See it just doesn't matter - if its bagless despite any brand including Dyson, it will always prove to be a health hazard.
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #12   Feb 11, 2010 1:05 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
See it just doesn't matter - if its bagless despite any brand including Dyson, it will always prove to be a health hazard.

Dump in a water-mist lined bag (slight amount of water) and use a little technique and little to no health hazard (plume).

All bags choke when Dyson's don't (if maintained and has a zero dollar cost).  Allergy suffers are better off lifting and removing allergens from carpeting...something a choking bag vacuum or choked out bag cannot deliver.


DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #13   Feb 11, 2010 1:06 pm
Severus wrote:
Dustmite,

Please tell me what you disagree with.   I have clearly stated that most Dyson uprights are very good bagless vacuums that are approved by Asthma Foundations in the US and Britain.   You don't vacuum in a vacuum - there are other sources of air movement - like your HVAC.   Most allergy sites advise against bagless vacuums for people with serious allergies - or to at least have someone else dump the canister. 


Two-Faces,

You won’t even play fair with a newcomer.  Why won’t you help Hertz or whomever and point out that the vav-goof dealer is a lowlife lying slight-of-hand con man, as has been discussed here in the past?  Even Mole and the guys on the collector forum laugh at this Miele rep, but not you.  And where is Miele Corp.?  Why are they allowing him to lie, why don’t they shut him down?  He’s embarrassing!...don’t you think?



Dyson Invents Big


Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: Dysons filtration?
Reply #14   Feb 11, 2010 1:13 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Two-Faces,

You won’t even play fair with a newcomer.  Why won’t you help Hertz or whomever and point out that the vav-goof dealer is a lowlife lying slight-of-hand con man, as has been discussed here in the past?  Even Mole and the guys on the collector forum laugh at this Miele rep, but not you.  And where is Miele Corp.?  Why are they allowing him to lie, why don’t they shut him down?  He’s embarrassing!...don’t you think?



Dyson Invents Big



Dustmite,

Don't get your panties in a wad.  Dysons aren't meant for the tiny percentage of people who have really serious allergies.  Miele does make 0 emissions vacuum - confirmed by independent lab tests.  It's expensive, and the bags and filters are expensive.  If you have a medical condition, you likely need to spend the money on such things.  

Have you repeated the man's tests with your own particle counter?  Or does Dyson even claim to have 0 emissions?  If not, then let it go.  It's really not a big deal.  Given that Hertz has no problem emptying a bagless vacuum, it isn't even important whether Dyson is completely sealed.  Completely sealed is for people who live in bubbles or have serious medical conditions.  The wind blowing will expose you to more allergens than you'll be exposed to with most modern vacuum cleaners. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
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