Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hello SEVERUS:

Dib-ster never lets the truth get in the way of his fanciful stories/opinions.  Same is true with his opinions and preference in vacuums.  Quote the facts and history to him, the legitimate and documented shortcomings about dysons and reasons for their discontinuance, DC 26 too, for the ridiculously high prices and it's of no avail.  A shill is a shill is a shill..............or perhaps HS has him pegged.  Not a shill at all, just an obtuse wannabe.........[who watches the Simpsons for inspiration].

Carmine D.

10 years ago there were very very few Mexicans in TN.  You should visit soon t see how those statistics have changed. 

Did you really expect to find a population listing for illegals?  You also won't find the number of illegal prostitutes in Las Vegas listed.

LV tracks the illegal prostitutes and prostidudes.  Provides photos on the front page of the newspapers at least once a year. 

It appears that the Latino/Hispanic percentage is 4.22 in Cookeville which I presume includes Mexicans.  As well as 3-4 percentage of Pacific islanders and other races [i.e. Puerto Rican, Cuban], who appear to look Mexican.  Unless you know a way to look at Mexicans and distinguish them from all other Latinos, Hispanics and other races?  If so, please share here.  I've been trying to learn.

The USA thru the US Census Bureau and Social Security Administrations in concert with local gov't authorities do a very good job tracking and reporting on the number of immigrants who are here in the US legally/illegally.  All these files are automated and can be matched in an assortment of ways and reasons by computers.  People are not illegal.  They are here illegally.  Many of whom work hard, pay social security taxes and receive zero benefits for their SS contributions/payments, because they are here illegally.  The US government estimates almost $2 Billion of pay-ins to SS fund and growing.  It is a sin that cries out to God.  Also, the US military forces have relatives/dependents of these persons who are here illegally serving in the Armed Forces.  Many of whom become US citizens by virtue of their military service and successfully meeting the citizen requirements. 

Carmine D.

LV only reports those caught.  Maybe you can tell us how many uncaught ones are operating in LV.  BTW, it is comforting to know that we have no murderers on death row.  They are just people who have committed an illegal act.

Maybe they aren't using a legal SS # as this excerpt indicates.

In 2002 alone, the last year with figures released by the Social Security Administration, nine million W-2's with incorrect Social Security numbers landed in the suspense file, accounting for $56 billion in earnings, or about 1.5 percent of total reported wages.

Social Security officials do not know what fraction of the suspense file corresponds to the earnings of illegal immigrants. But they suspect that the portion is significant.

The publishing of postitute/dude pictures with names and ages in the newspapers serves as a deterrent to illegal prostitution.  Works well, according to reports.

2002?  That's old and out of date.  Legitimate employers in the USA [assuming ORECK in Cookeville TN is legit] are required, under severe penalties of law, to withhold employees' FICA taxes [SS payroll taxes] EVERY PAY PERIOD and contribute employers' share into the SS fund EVERY PAY PERIOD.  Incorrect SSN's are flagged by Social Security Administration [SSA] and employers/employees have a time period set by law for corrections of the SSN errors.  Failure to make corrections timely, like not paying FICA taxes/contributions to SSA, subjects  employers to unannounced audits by internal and external auditors of the Social Security Administration in Baltimore MD.  Employers will tell you that they avoid these audits at all costs by complying with the laws.

The news is rife with reports of Federal authorities shuttering businesses, even well known ones, for employing persons who are here illegally.  It serves as a strong deterrent to solve SSN errors timely and ensure employees are here legally and properly enrolled in the SSA.  Back in 2002, the nanny issue, not paying wages in an above board arms length transaction [read SSA] was the undoing of many political appointees and candidates for political office.  These days the crime is almost non-existent thanks to the high level attention and pervasive news accounts. 

Carmine D.

I have serious doubts that Oreck employes any illegals.  No need to.  Oreck cashed in on an opportunity when TRW closed leaviung a facility and lots of unemployeed personnel.

Some info on Cookeville jobs:

Household Income
Less than $10,000	19%
$10,000 to $14,999	10%
$15,000 to $24,999	19%
$25,000 to $34,999	13%
$35,000 to $49,999	15%
$50,000 to $74,999	12%

Education
Less than 9th grade	12%
9th to 12th grade, no diploma	14%
High school graduate	25%
Some college, no degree	18%
Associate's degree	3%
Bachelor's degree	16%
Graduate degree	12%

Cookeville is an excellent distribution point for shipping.  Better than MS.  I do not see education as being a viable reason to locate there.  Not many degreed persons willing to work in a factory assembling vacuums. 

In good economic times, I agree.  In current economic times, I disagree.  As unemployemnt rises especially among professionals, employers/companies are more selective and discerning.  Degreed persons push out non-degreed persons for available jobs.  A factory job with benefits paying $14 an hour is very desirable over no work at all.

Carmine D.

SEVERUS:

Agree.  These are typically the reasons that localities use to win over employers to locate in their areas.  I'm sure with the economic times like they are, the persons who closed the deal with ORECK are patting themselves on their backs now.  Likewise, employers frequently cite these reasons for their relocations.  Education level is and always was a major selling point for business relocations.  Companies don't want to be labelled as moving to Dunceville USA.

Carmine D.

Having a university nearby is almost always a plus.   Based on some googling, I noticed that Tom Oreck has had some involvement with the Tennessee Tech (TTU) MBA program.   I don't know if Oreck has used Industrial engineers from TTU to help optimize the plant set up or to optimize processes.  

Here's a token piece of TTU  trivia.  TTU used to have a mechanical engineering professor with the last name Bagci.   He was apparently an expert in robotics who consulted on the original Star Wars movies.   When C3PO says that he speaks the "Bagci" language, it's in honor of  Dr. Bagci.