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DysonInventsBig
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #88 Jan 10, 2010 3:19 am |
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Dib-ster: Where you stand depends on where you sit! "Sexifier"... a product maker who uses advertising with sexy images to charge high prices for lackluster mediocre household products. Recognize the product, brand name, and spokesperson pictured? While it sinks to "slick" advertising that may/may not appeal to prurient interests I seriously doubt it is pornography. Tho, the thought of an overheated vacuum with dirt swirling around in a see thru container may turn some OCD users on.  Know any? I have to admit Miss IFA 2009 beats the gigantic mites that Sir James once used to pitch his products. Carmine D. Carmine, I forgot I said you had OCD some time ago... I’m laughing. You’re probably lots of fun to go shopping with... no-doubt you loiter around the vacuum cleaner department interviewing shoppers, managers, the floor staff, fiddling with the inventory and making a general nuisance of yourself. Your in your comfort zone here, but I bet many in your family find your all-consuming vacuum-anything (OCD) a bore and quite embarrassing too. Dyson Invents Big
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #89 Jan 10, 2010 6:56 am |
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Carmine,
I forgot I said you had OCD some time ago... I’m laughing. You’re probably lots of fun to go shopping with... no-doubt you loiter around the vacuum cleaner department interviewing shoppers, managers, the floor staff, fiddling with the inventory and making a general nuisance of yourself. Your in your comfort zone here, but I bet many in your family find your all-consuming vacuum-anything (OCD) a bore and quite embarrassing too.
Dyson Invents Big
Dib-ster:
You switched gears again from dyson, its pitches, celebs, and products back to me. Did I mention that I'm flattered that I personally and professionally consume more of your posts here than anything dyson and his products. To appease your worried mind, my friends, family, people I influence and love, and vacuum professionals I know, enjoy me, as I do them. It's all about self-esteem and integrity. Doing and saying the truth despite the consequences. Perhaps Sir James should try using Hazel as a pitch person rather than Miss IFA 2009. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #90 Jan 10, 2010 2:17 pm |
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Dib-ster: You switched gears again from dyson, its pitches, celebs, and products back to me. Did I mention that I'm flattered that I personally and professionally consume more of your posts here than anything dyson and his products. To appease your worried mind, my friends, family, people I influence and love, and vacuum professionals I know, enjoy me, as I do them. It's all about self-esteem and integrity. Doing and saying the truth despite the consequences. Perhaps Sir James should try using Hazel as a pitch person rather than Miss IFA 2009. Carmine D. Carmine, Since you’re the king of twisting (the truth) and shifting focus (away from the truth)...I’ll take 'switch[ing] gears' as a compliment. Dyson Invents Big
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #91 Jan 10, 2010 4:02 pm |
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Carmine,
Since you’re the king of twisting (the truth) and shifting focus (away from the truth)...I’ll take 'switch[ing] gears' as a compliment.
Dyson Invents Big
Dib-ster:
If that makes you happy, so be it. The facts are the facts regardless of whether you are happy or not and regardless of whether you believe them or not. The fact is when it comes to anything and all things dyson, the plain and simple truth is that dyson's pitch is superior to its products. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #92 Jan 10, 2010 8:28 pm |
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Dib-ster: If that makes you happy, so be it. The facts are the facts regardless of whether you are happy or not and regardless of whether you believe them or not. The fact is when it comes to anything and all things dyson, the plain and simple truth is that dyson's pitch is superior to its products. Carmine D. Same as your pitch about Oreck and Hoover.
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #93 Jan 10, 2010 8:55 pm |
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Same as your pitch about Oreck and Hoover.
HS:
Here's my assessment [pitch] based on hands on personal and professional experience: - HOOVER WT/TEMPO is the gold standard for rug cleaning and gets first place, starting as low as $70.
- ORECK XL Classic is a very distant second starting at $199 and gets second place.
- Dyson's DC07 at $400 plus was all show and no go. Dyson didn't even get the dismal third place showing. It never finished.
That's how they measure up price and performance wise for me. Of the above 3, dyson does win my acclaim for pitch over product. Does that count for anything. I think so. Why? HOOVER WT/TEMPO and ORECK XL Classic are still made and sold pervasively. BUT dyson's DC07 has been discontinued. Gawdawful clutch and wimpy brush bar couldn't make muster. Not even a signature dyson model despite all the stories about 5,174 prototypes. Dyson's pitch [Never clogs, never loses suction] far superior to DC07 product [now dead and gone forever.............along with the infamous dyson pitch]. Carmine D.
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #94 Jan 11, 2010 10:58 am |
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Same as your pitch about Oreck and Hoover.
Hardsell,
Just curious, do you feel like your Rainbow performs as well as the sales pitch? As I've mentioned previously, I'm always somewhat surprised by how well most Rainbow users like their product. They don't complain about the high price - they tend to praise the product and how well it works. Regardless of price, what vacuum do you think provides the best bang for the buck? What has the minimum level of quality and features that would you feel that your purchase wasn't a disappointment?
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #95 Jan 12, 2010 2:25 pm |
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Dib-ster: If that makes you happy, so be it. The facts are the facts regardless of whether you are happy or not and regardless of whether you believe them or not. The fact is when it comes to anything and all things dyson, the plain and simple truth is that dyson's pitch is superior to its products. Carmine D. Carmine, What’s your definition of ‘fact’ and ‘fiction?’ Dyson Invents Big
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #96 Jan 12, 2010 2:42 pm |
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Carmine,
What’s your definition of ‘fact’ and ‘fiction?’
Dyson Invents Big
Dib-ster:
My definition is the same as Mr. Webster. How about you? Carmine D.
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #97 Jan 12, 2010 6:19 pm |
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HS: Here's my assessment [pitch] based on hands on personal and professional experience: - HOOVER WT/TEMPO is the gold standard for rug cleaning and gets first place, starting as low as $70.
- ORECK XL Classic is a very distant second starting at $199 and gets second place.
- Dyson's DC07 at $400 plus was all show and no go. Dyson didn't even get the dismal third place showing. It never finished.
That's how they measure up price and performance wise for me. Of the above 3, dyson does win my acclaim for pitch over product. Does that count for anything. I think so. Why? HOOVER WT/TEMPO and ORECK XL Classic are still made and sold pervasively. BUT dyson's DC07 has been discontinued. Gawdawful clutch and wimpy brush bar couldn't make muster. Not even a signature dyson model despite all the stories about 5,174 prototypes. Dyson's pitch [Never clogs, never loses suction] far superior to DC07 product [now dead and gone forever.............along with the infamous dyson pitch]. Carmine D. The Dyson does shine at presenting the amount of dirt in the best possible way - uncompressed and fluffed up for maximum effect. It's similar to the Rainbow in that regard. With the Oreck and Tempo, you don't get to see the dirt up close and personal. Before Dyson, how many vacuum owners took pictures/videos of the filth in their rugs and put it on web sites? Nobody empties out a full Kirby bag and makes a video of it for u-tube. Dyson owners seem to love to play with the filth that was in their rugs.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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