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procare
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #49 Jan 5, 2010 1:21 pm |
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DIB, Your definition of idiot is not Webster's definition which I believe is the correct one, IDIOT- an ignorant, common person -one without professional knowledge - loosely- very loosely a very foolish or stupid person |
Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #50 Jan 5, 2010 3:40 pm |
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SEVERUS: Before he was knighted Sir James, dyson lacked the little money needed to buy bags for his vacuum. The price of a Rainbow surely would have been beyond his meager means. Like Malaysians being good enough to make dysons but too poor to buy/use. Carmine D. Curiously, Sir James mentions the dog smell of vacuum bags as a reason to go with bagless. A bagless vac can still pick up the smell of a dog from the oils in the hair. The Rainbow solves the problem by having water as a prefilter. Since you're not supposed to wash the cyclone assembly of a Dyson, I don't know how you get around the stinky smell of dog if the oil from the dog hair gets on the cyclone assembly. At least with some other bagless brands you can wash the assembly ,but not with Dyson.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #52 Jan 5, 2010 10:57 pm |
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Had a customer just leave with her Dyson. Problem clogged up filter. She followed all the directions. The problem was her husband had problem with the flue of the fireplace. Her husband sucked up the soot with the vacuum. Reason was it wasn't supposed to clog. Both the filters were replaced as well as the motor was cleaned. So when cleaning things like soot or even flour I don't recommend use of a Dyson. When picking dry detergent like Tide, Cheer or any other dry soap powder - Don't use a Rainbow or any other vacuum using water as part of it's cleaning system. You'll leave a mound of suds you will not believe. Procare Dyson has a very good system for filtering dirt out of the air stream when the amount of fine dust being picked up is a small fraction of the air stream. The cross sectional area at the top of each cone is very small, and it is quite easy to overload the cyclones when picking up a lot of fine dust quickly. I don't know why anyone would use a $300-$500 Dyson as a shop vac. That's as bad as using a Rainbow vacuum to clean a litter box.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #53 Jan 6, 2010 6:46 am |
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Curiously, Sir James mentions the dog smell of vacuum bags as a reason to go with bagless. A bagless vac can still pick up the smell of a dog from the oils in the hair. The Rainbow solves the problem by having water as a prefilter. Since you're not supposed to wash the cyclone assembly of a Dyson, I don't know how you get around the stinky smell of dog if the oil from the dog hair gets on the cyclone assembly. At least with some other bagless brands you can wash the assembly ,but not with Dyson. Had a customer just leave with her Dyson. Problem clogged up filter. She followed all the directions. The problem was her husband had problem with the flue of the fireplace. Her husband sucked up the soot with the vacuum. Reason was it wasn't supposed to clog. Both the filters were replaced as well as the motor was cleaned. So when cleaning things like soot or even flour I don't recommend use of a Dyson. When picking dry detergent like Tide, Cheer or any other dry soap powder - Don't use a Rainbow or any other vacuum using water as part of it's cleaning system. You'll leave a mound of suds you will not believe. Procare
SEVERUS, PROCARE:
The beauty of any bagged vacuum cleaner regardless of price is that a new inexpensive bag replacement solves the problems. VOILA the consumer is back to work without missing a beat. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #54 Jan 6, 2010 6:52 am |
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Dyson has a very good system for filtering dirt out of the air stream when the amount of fine dust being picked up is a small fraction of the air stream. The cross sectional area at the top of each cone is very small, and it is quite easy to overload the cyclones when picking up a lot of fine dust quickly. I don't know why anyone would use a $300-$500 Dyson as a shop vac. That's as bad as using a Rainbow vacuum to clean a litter box.
Hello SEVERUS:
To many consumers, a vacuum regardless of looks and price is still just a vacuum: Meant to pick up dirt. Chimney soot, Christmas needles and on and on are all fair game. Gotta luv them. Especially if you're in the business. The next several months will bring in many such vacuum repairs. Carmine D.
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #55 Jan 6, 2010 8:32 am |
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Had a customer just leave with her Dyson. Problem clogged up filter. She followed all the directions. The problem was her husband had problem with the flue of the fireplace. Her husband sucked up the soot with the vacuum. Reason was it wasn't supposed to clog. Both the filters were replaced as well as the motor was cleaned. So when cleaning things like soot or even flour I don't recommend use of a Dyson. When picking dry detergent like Tide, Cheer or any other dry soap powder - Don't use a Rainbow or any other vacuum using water as part of it's cleaning system. You'll leave a mound of suds you will not believe. Procare
Hi procare,
Fine substances like soot and plaster dust are no-nos for any vacuum other than a shop vac. Either will clog up a household vacuum in short order and may also do damage. There are now speciality vacuums for households with flues and fireplaces to clean. They even handle hot ash without much problem. Prior to the models with airpaths that by-pass the motor, I accidentally picked up some powdered laundry detergent with a D2. The motor started to sputter when the suds were sucked up into it. I unplugged it and then let it sit for several days until I felt sure it had dried out. As for pine tree needls, if one of the end fittings on your canister hose is straight you can try using a broom handle to GENTLY break up the blockage. You can also try an undone wire coat hanger as a "snake". Be sure that the working end is bent to avoid accidental perforation of your hose and, better yet, try a little duct tape to cover the end of the hanger to avoid snagging any internal wiring, etc., in electrified vacuum hoses. My best advice, is to first use a broom to collect the major part of fallen pine needles and then use your vacuum to quickly get rid of any residual. Whooshing up a smal amount of pine needles is not bad but avoid going after the long ones. Uprights may be the simpler to deal if their airpaths are short and uncomplicated.ee your user guide.) Remove the base plate and removable components composing the dirt path and start digging. Also note that this king of better done outdoors or over lots of newspaper. Venson
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #56 Jan 6, 2010 8:16 pm |
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Carmine,
By definition you behave like an idiot. You also drip with Dyson-envy, and lie big-time. You rushed out and declared Dyson copied Newcombe’s salad spinner without reading the Newcombe patent and after I spoon fed it to you.
Do you think I would help out all the lying vacuum dealer con men buy putting up a patent that even resembles the Dyson Dual Cyclone or other Dyson patents? You’re an idiot (by definition).
Dyson Invents Big
Idiot - Wikipedia: An idiot, dolt, or dullard is... someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. More humorous synonyms of the term include addlehead, blockhead, bonehead, deadhead, dimwit, dodo, dope, dummy, dunderhead, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, numbskull, stupidhead, thickhead, and twit, among many others. Dib-ster: Whether I am an idiot or not in your estimation is irrelevant to the facts and truth posted on this thread by PROCARE, SEVERUS, and MOLE about past vacuum inventions. Name calling is a childish diversion the first time used. Repeating it focuses readers' attention on the name caller, who quickly gets judged as childish. Carmine D. Carmine, You opened your mouth and said Dyson is a copy of the Newcombe and you’ve provided no proof. You opened your mouth and said Dyson copied or stole from Kenneth J. and you’ve provided no proof. You’re amusing and create many exchanges here, but calling my favorite living inventor, a self-made man, a philanthropist and inventor-ambassador a thief was... idiotic. You’ve also got a big head for a man who’s contributed little. Dyson Invents Big
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CarmineD
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Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #58 Jan 7, 2010 6:34 am |
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Carmine,
You opened your mouth and said Dyson is a copy of the Newcombe and you’ve provided no proof.
You opened your mouth and said Dyson copied or stole from Kenneth J. and you’ve provided no proof.
You’re amusing and create many exchanges here, but calling my favorite living inventor, a self-made man, a philanthropist and inventor-ambassador a thief was... idiotic. You’ve also got a big head for a man who’s contributed little.
Dyson Invents Big
Dib-ster:
I never made any claim to be an inventor and contribute anything. I'm not the subject of the thread. Sir James and dyson's pitch is superior to his products. Plenty of facts have been provided to support this. When confronted with these facts you resort to name calling and hide your head in the sand. A childish response. Indicative that you have no facts at hand to argue against. Carmine D.
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