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If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Original Message   Dec 18, 2009 5:22 pm
Looking back over the past year, one thing conspicuously absent from this forum is a rabid Rainbow enthusiast.  Perhaps it is difficult to justify the outrageous price of these door to door wonders.   To some extent, a Rainbow owner has to believe in the Rainbow sales pitch and doesn't want to be confronted with any negative information about the Rainbow.    I also noticed that overstock.com is no longer selling the refurbished Rainbow SE's with the Wesselwerks small power nozzles.    Given the economy, it's got to be tough selling $2000+ vacuums - even if they can purify one's home. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #45   Jan 5, 2010 7:32 am
mole wrote:
So if i put 1 qt of water in my dyson's bin would i be inventing something?

This would work to keep the fine dust level down and out of the pre motor filter.

Can i have the R@D money now,A stack of hundreds would be fine.

Thanks

MOLE


HAPPY NEW YEAR MOLE:

As my 5 year old grand daughter would ask:  Is that real money or fake?

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #46   Jan 5, 2010 11:41 am
CarmineD wrote:
HAPPY NEW YEAR PROCARE and SEVERUS:

Dib-ster's monotonous diatribes here over how great dyson art and how tired and weary are all others has become B-O-R-I-N-G. 

As a dyson shill, with a poor cover, Dib-ster typically resorts to name calling [like idiot] and/or using the laugh/joke cards as defenses of last resort when faced with incontrovertible facts/truths.  Dib-ster claims he enjoys defending his words only when he's right.  In reality, if he were right and rarely is that the case, no defense is needed.  Absent facts/truth, no defense is sufficient.  I would have thought with a new year would bring a new alias/cover for Dib-ster.  Even better, a new dyson spokes person.  But, alas, not yet.  Slim-pickins for Sir James.  Perhaps the reason that starting in 2010 dyson no longer sells in 31 global markets but just 5.  Malaysia is not one of them.

Carmine D.


Carmine,

By definition you behave like an idiot.  You also drip with Dyson-envy, and lie big-time.  You rushed out and declared Dyson copied Newcombe’s salad spinner without reading the Newcombe patent and after I spoon fed it to you. 

Do you think I would help out all the lying vacuum dealer con men buy putting up a patent that even resembles the Dyson Dual Cyclone or other Dyson patents?  You’re an idiot (by definition).


Dyson Invents Big

Idiot - Wikipedia:  An idiot, dolt, or dullard is...  someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. More humorous synonyms of the term include addlehead, blockhead, bonehead, deadhead, dimwit, dodo, dope, dummy, dunderhead, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, numbskull, stupidhead, thickhead, and twit, among many others.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #47   Jan 5, 2010 12:34 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

By definition you behave like an idiot.  You also drip with Dyson-envy, and lie big-time.  You rushed out and declared Dyson copied Newcombe’s salad spinner without reading the Newcombe patent and after I spoon fed it to you. 

Do you think I would help out all the lying vacuum dealer con men buy putting up a patent that even resembles the Dyson Dual Cyclone or other Dyson patents?  You’re an idiot (by definition).


Dyson Invents Big

Idiot - Wikipedia:  An idiot, dolt, or dullard is...  someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. More humorous synonyms of the term include addlehead, blockhead, bonehead, deadhead, dimwit, dodo, dope, dummy, dunderhead, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, numbskull, stupidhead, thickhead, and twit, among many others.


Dib-ster:

Whether I am an idiot or not in your estimation is irrelevant to the facts and truth posted on this thread by PROCARE, SEVERUS, and MOLE about past vacuum inventions.  Name calling is a childish diversion the first time used.  Repeating it focuses readers' attention on the name caller, who quickly gets judged as childish.    

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #48   Jan 5, 2010 1:02 pm
Severus wrote:
......
Based on his comments, Rainbow actually did everything James wanted in a vacuum.  If James had had a Rainbow, he might have never bothered to go into the vacuum business.



SEVERUS:

Before he was knighted Sir James, dyson lacked the little money needed to buy bags for his vacuum.  The price of a Rainbow surely would have been beyond his meager means.   Like Malaysians being good enough to make dysons but too poor to buy/use. 

Carmine D.

procare


Joined: Jul 16, 2009
Points: 192

Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #49   Jan 5, 2010 1:21 pm
DIB,

  Your definition of idiot is not Webster's definition which I believe is the correct one,

                       IDIOT- an ignorant, common person  -one without professional knowledge - loosely- very loosely a very foolish or stupid person

     

Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #50   Jan 5, 2010 3:40 pm
CarmineD wrote:
SEVERUS:

Before he was knighted Sir James, dyson lacked the little money needed to buy bags for his vacuum.  The price of a Rainbow surely would have been beyond his meager means.   Like Malaysians being good enough to make dysons but too poor to buy/use. 

Carmine D.


Curiously, Sir James mentions the dog smell of vacuum bags as a reason to go with bagless.   A bagless vac can still pick up the smell of a dog from the oils in the hair.  The Rainbow solves the problem by having water as a prefilter.  Since you're not supposed to wash the cyclone assembly of a Dyson, I don't know how you get around the stinky smell of dog if the oil from the dog hair gets on the cyclone assembly.  At least with some other bagless brands you can wash the assembly ,but not with Dyson. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
procare


Joined: Jul 16, 2009
Points: 192

Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #51   Jan 5, 2010 6:43 pm
   Had a customer just leave with her Dyson. Problem clogged up filter. She followed all the directions. The problem was her husband had problem with the flue of the fireplace. Her husband sucked up the soot with the vacuum. Reason was it wasn't supposed to clog.  Both the filters were replaced as well as the motor was cleaned. So when cleaning things like soot or even flour I don't recommend use of a Dyson.  When picking dry detergent  like Tide, Cheer  or any other dry soap powder - Don't use  a Rainbow or any other vacuum using water as part of it's cleaning system. You'll leave a mound of suds you will not believe.

                                                                                                          Procare

Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #52   Jan 5, 2010 10:57 pm
procare wrote:
   Had a customer just leave with her Dyson. Problem clogged up filter. She followed all the directions. The problem was her husband had problem with the flue of the fireplace. Her husband sucked up the soot with the vacuum. Reason was it wasn't supposed to clog.  Both the filters were replaced as well as the motor was cleaned. So when cleaning things like soot or even flour I don't recommend use of a Dyson.  When picking dry detergent  like Tide, Cheer  or any other dry soap powder - Don't use  a Rainbow or any other vacuum using water as part of it's cleaning system. You'll leave a mound of suds you will not believe.

                                                                                                          Procare



Dyson has a very good system for filtering dirt out of the air stream when the amount of fine dust being picked up is a small fraction of the air stream.   The cross sectional area at the top of each cone is very small, and it is quite easy to overload the cyclones when picking up a lot of fine dust quickly.   I don't know why anyone would use a $300-$500 Dyson as a shop vac.  That's as bad as using a Rainbow vacuum to clean a litter box. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #53   Jan 6, 2010 6:46 am
Severus wrote:
Curiously, Sir James mentions the dog smell of vacuum bags as a reason to go with bagless.   A bagless vac can still pick up the smell of a dog from the oils in the hair.  The Rainbow solves the problem by having water as a prefilter.  Since you're not supposed to wash the cyclone assembly of a Dyson, I don't know how you get around the stinky smell of dog if the oil from the dog hair gets on the cyclone assembly.  At least with some other bagless brands you can wash the assembly ,but not with Dyson. 
procare wrote:
   Had a customer just leave with her Dyson. Problem clogged up filter. She followed all the directions. The problem was her husband had problem with the flue of the fireplace. Her husband sucked up the soot with the vacuum. Reason was it wasn't supposed to clog.  Both the filters were replaced as well as the motor was cleaned. So when cleaning things like soot or even flour I don't recommend use of a Dyson.  When picking dry detergent  like Tide, Cheer  or any other dry soap powder - Don't use  a Rainbow or any other vacuum using water as part of it's cleaning system. You'll leave a mound of suds you will not believe.

                                                                                                          Procare


SEVERUS, PROCARE:

The beauty of any bagged vacuum cleaner regardless of price is that a new inexpensive bag replacement solves the problems.  VOILA the consumer is back to work without missing a beat.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jan 6, 2010 by CarmineD
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: whatever happened to the Rainbow enthusiasts
Reply #54   Jan 6, 2010 6:52 am
Severus wrote:
Dyson has a very good system for filtering dirt out of the air stream when the amount of fine dust being picked up is a small fraction of the air stream.   The cross sectional area at the top of each cone is very small, and it is quite easy to overload the cyclones when picking up a lot of fine dust quickly.   I don't know why anyone would use a $300-$500 Dyson as a shop vac.  That's as bad as using a Rainbow vacuum to clean a litter box. 



Hello SEVERUS:

To many consumers, a vacuum regardless of looks and price is still just a vacuum: Meant to pick up dirt.  Chimney soot, Christmas needles and on and on are all fair game.  Gotta luv them.  Especially if you're in the business.  The next several months will bring in many such vacuum repairs.

Carmine D.

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