"What has dyson invented now?" Original Message Oct 11, 2009 11:23 pm
I received this "teaser email today: http://links.mkt2388.com/ctt?kn=1&m=2735925&r=MTgwOTM1MTgzMTcS1&b=0&j=NzgxMTAyODMS1&mt=1&rt=0 Anyone know what's up with this??
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #190 Dec 6, 2009 3:27 pm
CarmineD wrote:
dyson DiB-ster:
What you and I say about dyson's supposed wealth are irrelevant to readers. It's what the journalists for the UK Times and Forbes magazine say that matters. Both are the sources here that you posted for Sir James' wealth. Or at least I would think they matter to you since you posted them here. The former says multi-millionaire for 2008 according to the article you posted. The latter has not published results for 2009, but so far it's looking that Sir James' net worth will come in lower for 2009 [meaning below $1B] than 2008.
As I said, money is not a way to measure business success. Money, net worth, call it what you like of an individually privately owned company vice publicly held Corporations is disingenous for all the reasons I and others here posted. A better way is comparing the performance of the products. Choose whatever product venue you like: Vacuums, hand dryers, fans, wheel barrows. That's the great equalizer. What say you on that standard of success for dyson to the competitors? Be prepared to back up your opinions.
Carmine D.
Cameron,
Not so fast. You called me out and called my wealth-card an opinion, and thus far you've been incapable of backing up your words (unable, unwilling to prove me wrong). Do you know what I detest more than do-nothin’s, liars, attention seekers or the jealous? - The Christian phony.
Dyson Invents Big
This message was modified Dec 6, 2009 by DysonInventsBig
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
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Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #191 Dec 7, 2009 12:10 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Google Pourno Chrome,
You’re a goof.Tom’s numbers stand (as sighted by Trebor).Do you know basic math?Please account for over a $1b (plus) in Dyson sales or for the 100,000 weekly or 400,000 monthly Dyson units manufactured in Malaysia (per the Malaysian news article I posted a few weeks or so ago).
FYI – reps are always proud of their numbers and their company’s numbers.You know full-well reps talk.Goof!
DIB
Dustmite,
Sorry, I don't consider you a credible source of information. You are an anonymous poster with no connection to the vacuum industry. You have no inside information. If you can provide a link to an official Dyson web site that provides sales, preferably broken down by model, I'll take you seriously.
Certainly sales reps always tell the truth. When I buy new cars, I know the sales reps always tell me the truth and give me the best price possible.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #192 Dec 7, 2009 2:31 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Google Pourno Chrome,
You’re a goof.Tom’s numbers stand (as sighted by Trebor).Do you know basic math?Please account for over a $1b (plus) in Dyson sales or for the 100,000 weekly or 400,000 monthly Dyson units manufactured in Malaysia (per the Malaysian news article I posted a few weeks or so ago).
FYI – reps are always proud of their numbers and their company’s numbers.You know full-well reps talk.Goof!
DIB
Severus wrote:
Dustmite,
Sorry, I don't consider you a credible source of information. You are an anonymous poster with no connection to the vacuum industry. You have no inside information. If you can provide a link to an official Dyson web site that provides sales, preferably broken down by model, I'll take you seriously.
Certainly sales reps always tell the truth. When I buy new cars, I know the sales reps always tell me the truth and give me the best price possible.
Google Pourno Chrome,
I find if sporting going after men who believe they are entitled and qualified to attack and malign good men and their livelihoods, don’t you?
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #193 Dec 7, 2009 6:50 am
Hello dyson DiB-ster:
You are not addressing the core dyson issues. Dyson products fall short of its rivals, period. Evidence of damaged rugs and voided warranties when dysons are used. Ever increasing dyson sales discounts [in violation of dyson's MAP] and giveaways to compete for lost sales. News within a month of the fan launch that Sir James plans to drop the prices on his fans from $330 to $80 at BEST BUY and Wal*Mart stores in March 2010. Why? Dyson does not provide its AirBlade prices on its Web Site. Why? Other hand dryers at half the dyson price are advertising their wares and prices on this site. Why?
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #194 Dec 7, 2009 6:55 am
Oh, DiB-ster:
I'm reminded you still haven't addressed the motor wiring harness defect on new DC25 ball models. Tho several posters have made the point. The posters you attacked were right when they said the dyson motors and wiring connections in the ball cavity would fail prematurely. They were right. Another poor and misguided design flaw by the 475 dyson engineers?
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #195 Dec 7, 2009 7:04 am
DiB-ster:
How about the gawd awful clutches on DC07 and DC14? DC07 is kaput. So too the DC14. It's a goner soon. Getting sold now at bargain basement prices, of $314 by some retailers, brand new. DC17 too I see advertised for $359 this week by all the major retailers. At least others here representing dyson gave us answers to these matters. You give us dyson's canned opinions based on marketing propaganda.
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #197 Dec 7, 2009 10:25 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Google Pourno Chrome,
I find if sporting going after men who believe they are entitled and qualified to attack and malign good men and their livelihoods, don’t you?
Dyson Invents Big
Dustmite,
I have maligned no good men - I have only maligned you. I don't consider you to be a reliable source of information. Sales figures for any company are closely guarded. I don't know why you pretend to have inside information, when it is clear that your only source of information is google chrome.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #198 Dec 7, 2009 12:01 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:
With SEBO vacuum prices going up in the USA for consumers who want to buy/use them, SEBO speaks well of itself.
Carmine D.
If I were in the market for a premium German upright, I could choose between the Sebo and Miele offerings. Miele's new uprights start at $550 for the most basic model. I'm not sure what the difference is between a Windsor and a Sebo, but it seems like one can get a hefty discount by going the Windsor route.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
Re: "What has dyson invented now?" Reply #199 Dec 7, 2009 1:20 pm
Severus wrote:
If I were in the market for a premium German upright, I could choose between the Sebo and Miele offerings. Miele's new uprights start at $550 for the most basic model. I'm not sure what the difference is between a Windsor and a Sebo, but it seems like one can get a hefty discount by going the Windsor route.
Hi Severus, As both brands primarily sell in vac shops, negotiating price is a very strong possibility. All things considered, my conservative guesstimate is that prices as marked may be talked down as much as $125 to $150 "sticker price".
I did quite well in regard to what I landed my two Mieles a year or so ago. It being just everyone, not just the humble Joe Schmoes who dole out hard-earned money, has had to tighten their belt and make compromises, I think indie shops are equally prepared to the same -- especially now.
