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ArtieV1


Joined: Jul 30, 2007
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"What has dyson invented now?"
Original Message   Oct 11, 2009 11:23 pm
I received this "teaser email today: http://links.mkt2388.com/ctt?kn=1&m=2735925&r=MTgwOTM1MTgzMTcS1&b=0&j=NzgxMTAyODMS1&mt=1&rt=0
Anyone know what's up with this??

-=Art=-
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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #182   Dec 6, 2009 1:00 pm
CarmineD wrote:
From the SEBO USA Web Site:  I believe Windsor is the commercial name brand for the SEBO uprights.

Carmine D.

Company Info

Founded in 1978 by a team of German engineers, SEBO has become the largest manufacturer of high-quality commercial upright vacuum cleaners in the world. Throughout the design and manufacturing stages of its various vacuum cleaners, SEBO has focused on providing its customers the key benefits of ease-of-use, reliability, consistent cleaning effectiveness, and high filtration.

The features and durability of SEBO's vacuums naturally led to demand in the consumer market as well. Since its debut, SEBO has satisfied millions of customers around the world and become one of the most highly renowned brand names available.

SEBO America now provides these exceptional products to the American consumer market.



I was almost surprised that Oreck was not used in more commercial applications.  UNTIL I READ 'HIGH QUALITY'.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #183   Dec 6, 2009 1:59 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Cameron,

Hey con man, when you called me out and said my position and observation of Mr. Dyson’s wealth, wealth he made off his/his companies discoveries is [you say] “an opinion” and not belly up and back it with proof otherwise?  Well, this is just your way of saying you’re not just a lying con but a dull-witted con too.  You’re an embarrassment behind a keyboard.

Think before you 'call me out'.


Dyson Invents Big


dyson DiB-ster:

What you and I say about dyson's supposed wealth are irrelevant to readers.  It's what the journalists for the UK Times and Forbes magazine say that matters.  Both are the sources here that you posted for Sir James' wealth.  Or at least I would think they matter to you since you posted them here.  The former says multi-millionaire for 2008 according to the article you posted.  The latter has not published results for 2009, but so far it's looking that Sir James' net worth will come in lower for 2009 [meaning below $1B] than 2008. 

As I said, money is not a way to measure business success.  Money, net worth, call it what you like of an individually privately owned company vice publicly held Corporations is disingenous for all the reasons I and others here posted.  A better way is comparing the performance of the products.  Choose whatever product venue you like: Vacuums, hand dryers, fans, wheel barrows.  That's the great equalizer.  What say you on that standard of success for dyson to the competitors?  Be prepared to back up your opinions.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #184   Dec 6, 2009 2:06 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I was almost surprised that Oreck was not used in more commercial applications.  UNTIL I READ 'HIGH QUALITY'.



HS:

I know you are not advocate for ORECK.  I'm not either, tho ORECK works fine for me and others who I know use and like them above the competition.  I posted here before and will again.  The latest luxury Casino/Hotel to open its doors in North Las Vegas usees two brands of uprights in equal number:  ORECK's and Windsors [aka SEBO].  As I'm told by the buyers here for the property, both brands were rated and ranked equally in a match off.  So a management decision was made to buy both brands.  A decision that after more than one year is still viewed as  the right one. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #185   Dec 6, 2009 2:08 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Google Pourno Chrome,

You’re a goof.  Tom’s numbers stand (as sighted by Trebor).   Do you know basic math?  Please account for over a $1b (plus) in Dyson sales or for the 100,000 weekly or 400,000 monthly Dyson units manufactured in Malaysia (per the Malaysian news article I posted a few weeks or so ago).

 

FYI – reps are always proud of their numbers and their company’s numbers.  You know full-well reps talk.  Goof!

 

DIB

We should have known DiB-ster that you were the source of the bogus dyson number.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Dec 6, 2009 by CarmineD
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #186   Dec 6, 2009 2:36 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

I know you are not advocate for ORECK.  I'm not either, tho ORECK works fine for me and others who I know use and like them above the competition.  I posted here before and will again.  The latest luxury Casino/Hotel to open its doors in North Las Vegas usees two brands of uprights in equal number:  ORECK's and Windsors [aka SEBO].  As I'm told by the buyers here for the property, both brands were rated and ranked equally in a match off.  So a management decision was made to buy both brands.  A decision that after more than one year is still viewed as  the right one. 

Carmine D.



I neglected to mention above that one of the test criteria to make the cut for the selection of the brand/model purchased was that it had to have the Carpet and Rug Institute seal of approval.  ORECK and Windsor both received the coveted green seal of approval and were among the first vacuum products that did after the new testing was institued a few years ago.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #187   Dec 6, 2009 2:43 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Cameron,

Hey con man, when you called me out and said my position and observation of Mr. Dyson’s wealth, wealth he made off his/his companies discoveries is [you say] “an opinion” and not belly up and back it with proof otherwise?  Well, this is just your way of saying you’re not just a lying con but a dull-witted con too.  You’re an embarrassment behind a keyboard.

Think before you 'call me out'.


Dyson Invents Big



dyson DiB-ster:

As the sole proprietor and owner of my own vacuum cleaner sales and service store/business for over 42 years, I never ever had any complaints filed against me/my business with the Chamber of Commerce, Better Business Bureau, and/or with any other entity, private/public.  I sold my vacuum business after 42 years to another who is still in the same location with the business.  Almost 60 years now.  It is a historic place of business for the County and town. 

I was my own boss in the vacuum business.  It was a vocation for me.  I didn't slave to/for others in a daily job.  How about you?

Carmine D.

This message was modified Dec 6, 2009 by CarmineD
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #188   Dec 6, 2009 2:49 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

I know you are not advocate for ORECK.  I'm not either, tho ORECK works fine for me and others who I know use and like them above the competition.  I posted here before and will again.  The latest luxury Casino/Hotel to open its doors in North Las Vegas usees two brands of uprights in equal number:  ORECK's and Windsors [aka SEBO].  As I'm told by the buyers here for the property, both brands were rated and ranked equally in a match off.  So a management decision was made to buy both brands.  A decision that after more than one year is still viewed as  the right one. 

Carmine D.



That doesn't speak well of the Sebo.
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #189   Dec 6, 2009 2:52 pm
CarmineD wrote:
dyson DiB-ster:

As the sole proprietor and owner of my own vacuum cleaner sales and service store/business for over 42 years, I never ever had any complaints filed against me/my business with the Chamber of Commerce, Better Business Bureau, and/or with any other entity, private/public.  I sold my vacuum business after 42 years to another who is still in the same location with the business.  Almost 60 years now.  It is a historic place of business for the County and town. 

I was my own boss in the vacuum business.  It was a vocation for me.  I didn't slave to/for others in a daily job.  How about you?

Carmine D.


I'll bet you twisted for a sale same as the Oreck slaesman did Friday when I talked to him.
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #190   Dec 6, 2009 3:27 pm
CarmineD wrote:
dyson DiB-ster:

What you and I say about dyson's supposed wealth are irrelevant to readers.  It's what the journalists for the UK Times and Forbes magazine say that matters.  Both are the sources here that you posted for Sir James' wealth.  Or at least I would think they matter to you since you posted them here.  The former says multi-millionaire for 2008 according to the article you posted.  The latter has not published results for 2009, but so far it's looking that Sir James' net worth will come in lower for 2009 [meaning below $1B] than 2008. 

As I said, money is not a way to measure business success.  Money, net worth, call it what you like of an individually privately owned company vice publicly held Corporations is disingenous for all the reasons I and others here posted.  A better way is comparing the performance of the products.  Choose whatever product venue you like: Vacuums, hand dryers, fans, wheel barrows.  That's the great equalizer.  What say you on that standard of success for dyson to the competitors?  Be prepared to back up your opinions.

Carmine D.


Cameron,

Not so fast. You called me out and called my wealth-card an opinion, and thus far you've been incapable of backing up your words (unable, unwilling to prove me wrong).  Do you know what I detest more than do-nothin’s, liars, attention seekers or the jealous? - The Christian phony.


Dyson Invents Big
This message was modified Dec 6, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: "What has dyson invented now?"
Reply #191   Dec 7, 2009 12:10 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Google Pourno Chrome,

You’re a goof.  Tom’s numbers stand (as sighted by Trebor).   Do you know basic math?  Please account for over a $1b (plus) in Dyson sales or for the 100,000 weekly or 400,000 monthly Dyson units manufactured in Malaysia (per the Malaysian news article I posted a few weeks or so ago).

 

FYI – reps are always proud of their numbers and their company’s numbers.  You know full-well reps talk.  Goof!

 

DIB


Dustmite,

Sorry, I don't consider you a credible source of information.  You are an anonymous poster with no connection to the vacuum industry.  You have no inside information.   If you can provide a link to an official Dyson web site that provides sales, preferably broken down by model, I'll take you seriously. 

Certainly sales reps always tell the truth.   When I buy new cars, I know the sales reps always tell me the truth and give me the best price possible. 

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
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