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Joined: Oct 7, 2009
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A winner?
Original Message   Oct 7, 2009 7:08 am
http://www.vaxmachair.co.uk/
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: A winner?
Reply #10   Oct 8, 2009 8:47 am
JIBBERS wrote:
A friend sent me to the above website after I said I was looking to buy a Dyson DC24.  The Mach Air looks, on paper, to be a better offering in terms of weight (less), size (more), capacity (more), suction power (more) and guarantee (more).  But as it is so new I don't know whether to risk it as there are no reviews out there yet. 

Any thoughts?



Hello JIBBERS:

Short of an in home free no obligation trial [read ORECK] and not knowing the strengths and weaknesses of either [DC24 and/or VAX lightweight] you are left with one and only one viable option.  Find a retailer that sells both and inquire which is better.  Even then, we are all different in our likes and dislikes.  Money permitting buy both from the retailer with the understanding that you will keep the one you like best [if in fact you do] and return the one that you don't.  In the present hard times, I suspect the retailer will agree just to make a sale AND learn why you prefer one over the other.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: A winner?
Reply #11   Oct 8, 2009 9:11 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello JIBBERS:

Short of an in home free no obligation trial [read ORECK] and not knowing the strengths and weaknesses of either [DC24 and/or VAX lightweight] you are left with one and only one viable option.  Find a retailer that sells both and inquire which is better.  Even then, we are all different in our likes and dislikes.  Money permitting buy both from the retailer with the understanding that you will keep the one you like best [if in fact you do] and return the one that you don't.  In the present hard times, I suspect the retailer will agree just to make a sale AND learn why you prefer one over the other.

Carmine D.


Contrary to what some will have you believe Oreck is not the only store to allow 30 day free trial.  The DC24 is available in Best Buy and Sears stores.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: A winner?
Reply #12   Oct 8, 2009 1:36 pm
HS:

ORECK is the only vacuum manufacturer, save Garry Vacuum, which allows a 30 day free return with no obligations if not completely satisfied.  Garry, if I'm correct, is only 14 days, down from the original 30 day return time period.  I know ORECK is stuck in your craw.  My advice to you is to get over it and move on.   ORECK isn't made for everyone. 

The VAX lightweight upright, in case you missed the obvious which is obvious, is not yet available in the USA.  Just the UK at least for the current time.  You recommend that GIBBERS make a trip, either in person and/or via the internet, to 2 USA retailers to buy a VAX vacuum not yet available?  Or are you recommending an untried and untested DC24 outright without any match off by GIBBERS of the two brands.  BTW, GIBBERS already said that at least on paper VAX bests a DC24 in all the relevant categories.   And is leaning toward it as a purchase.  Apparently his friend who emailed him the UK VAX site believes this to be the case too.  Of course, to know these facts and details you would have actually had to read and compare the specs for both models and read the pots on this thread.  We already know your limited reading comprehension abilities based on your post.   Or as I said, ORECK is so stuck in your craw that it interferes with your ability to see and read.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: A winner?
Reply #13   Oct 8, 2009 4:25 pm
30 days trial? Thats far too long for any vac let alone Oreck. One day usually suffices.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: A winner?
Reply #14   Oct 8, 2009 4:46 pm
30 days is the max.  There is no minimum time.  Some few the extra time as a benefit.  Free vacuum to use to clean their homes.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: A winner?
Reply #15   Oct 8, 2009 5:08 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

ORECK is the only vacuum manufacturer, save Garry Vacuum, which allows a 30 day free return with no obligations if not completely satisfied.  Garry, if I'm correct, is only 14 days, down from the original 30 day return time period.  I know ORECK is stuck in your craw.  My advice to you is to get over it and move on.   ORECK isn't made for everyone. 

The VAX lightweight upright, in case you missed the obvious which is obvious, is not yet available in the USA.  Just the UK at least for the current time.  You recommend that GIBBERS make a trip, either in person and/or via the internet, to 2 USA retailers to buy a VAX vacuum not yet available?  Or are you recommending an untried and untested DC24 outright without any match off by GIBBERS of the two brands.  BTW, GIBBERS already said that at least on paper VAX bests a DC24 in all the relevant categories.   And is leaning toward it as a purchase.  Apparently his friend who emailed him the UK VAX site believes this to be the case too.  Of course, to know these facts and details you would have actually had to read and compare the specs for both models and read the pots on this thread.  We already know your limited reading comprehension abilities based on your post.   Or as I said, ORECK is so stuck in your craw that it interferes with your ability to see and read.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

Contrary to what some will have you believe Oreck is not the only store to allow 30 day free trial.  The DC24 is available in Best Buy and Sears stores.
Hello JIBBERS:

Short of an in home free no obligation trial [read ORECK] and not knowing the strengths and weaknesses of either [DC24 and/or VAX lightweight] you are left with one and only one viable option.  Find a retailer that sells both and inquire which is better.  Even then, we are all different in our likes and dislikes.  Money permitting buy both from the retailer with the understanding that you will keep the one you like best [if in fact you do] and return the one that you don't.  In the present hard times, I suspect the retailer will agree just to make a sale AND learn why you prefer one over the other.

Carmine D.



Carmine, If you weren't so stupid you would be funny.  I never mentioned VAX. 

Now what was your proposal.  SEARCH for a dealer, then drive to the dealer, buy two vacuums, taske them home, return one or both.  Now if he tries an Oreck we add aanother trip or two.  BTW, was your recommendation to go to the UK and buy a VAX since they are not in the US?  Specs on paper are meaningless unless they are fly $#%*. 

We all know about your vendetta toward Dyson.  It is your own fault that Dyson made a monkey of you so get over it.  You bring them up in every topic so quit being your hypocritic self about me and Oreck.

Now read all that I wroet before you make an ash of yourself again.

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: A winner?
Reply #16   Oct 8, 2009 5:57 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
30 days trial? Thats far too long for any vac let alone Oreck. One day usually suffices.


ID say a day is too short......a couple weeks is enough time to encounter diff kinds of day to day messes...and the big ones in between.. some wanna see if its durable and worth it......and most will find it to be perfect for their needs.

turtle1

This message was modified Oct 8, 2009 by retardturtle1
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: A winner?
Reply #17   Oct 8, 2009 7:24 pm
HS:

If you could read [and understand] what I write you wouldn't make a donkey of yourself.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: A winner?
Reply #18   Oct 8, 2009 7:40 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
ID say a day is too short......a couple weeks is enough time to encounter diff kinds of day to day messes...and the big ones in between.. some wanna see if its durable and worth it......and most will find it to be perfect for their needs.

turtle1



Right on.  I suspect that customers who actually use the ORECK wind up purchasing.  Those who use the free home trial as an excuse to get the freebies don't purchase.  They have to make up bogus reasons for not buying.  Truth is they just wanted the free giveaways and/or can't afford the ORECK.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: A winner?
Reply #19   Jan 13, 2010 7:28 am
I don't know if this product is a winner, but the pitch and price are. 

Carmine D.

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