Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hi,

Per Japan Today, Sanyo has come up with a new cyclonic model, the Sanyo Airsis, which is to be released in Japan on October 21st.

The Airsis' proprosed price is to be 115,500 yen (approximately $1,277 American). Despite some slightly radical design changes -- a hose end with dual grips and very different looking floor tool -- the price sounds a bit steep for a machine that's main claim is an upward directed exhaust stream. That's more an exercise of common sense than genius. Sanyo also says this cleaner excels because its filtration rate is 20 percent faster. Whether this implies increased airflow and/or suction, I do not know. Link follows:

http://www.japantoday.com/category/new-products/view/cyclonic-vacuum-cleaner-2

Venson

Mike_W wrote:

A motor, electrical cord and assorted tools too.  Tho the new sanyo is plastic, I presume, and old Sunbeam mostly metal body with plastic trim.  My perspective on similarity is strictly from design and form: like a hatbox, so to speak. 

Carmine D.

The thing is though with all these new vacs coming on the market how easy is it to tell if exhausts are actually putting dust around? Its like the toilet adverts on TV in the UK. You can't buy the actual stain spot liquid they use to show up what bleachs have left behind. Short of casting your whole house in ultra violet hues how can you really be sure vacs are leaving dust behind apart from actual vacuuming up?

CarmineD wrote:

Your anaolgy makes the Gary an Oreck.

vacmanuk wrote:
Prospective buyers merely have to look. If exhaust venting or diffusion is designed to directed and/or happen above floor level then you're traveling pretty much in the right direction.

My Miele S7's exhaust vents straight up from the cleaning head. This is almost ideal except that I'd wonder what happens when you clean under a piece of low furniture or a bed. Obviously the upward air stream would be deflected downward but to what effect I do not know. The solution of course would be to use the hose with wand and an attachment for those purposes if you're particularly worried.

Nonetheless, most people aren't the least bit worried about this issue and the finer points of design fly completely over their heads. As long as they see substantial results by way of a vacuum's intake they pay little attention to its exhaust unless it's obviously spewing clouds of dust. For this reason, the Hoover Constellation did well in our market for years and it's even experienced a re-birth. Also, don't forget the Air-Rider. Eureka for one made many good, sturdy canisters for decades and customers never paid attention to the bottom positioned or directed exhaust systems in place on many.

Venson

Mike_W wrote:
Thanks Mike.

Venson

HARDSELL wrote:

Hello HS:

Dream on.  Garry's infomercial attempts to invoke the classic ORECK iconology.  To garry's credit, it picked a winner to emulate at least in form, design, and marketing.  Similarities in form, design and marketing don't automatically translate into similarity in performance and operation.  

Carmine D.

Several years back, Sanyo intro'ed a bagless upright with cyclo-flow filtration.  Still available.  It's claim is that it cuts back room exhaust by 60 percent by internally recirculating exhaust air through the brush roll nozzle.  The remaining 40 percent filters thru a HEPA rated filter.  The Airsis may be the canister equivalent by Sanyo?

Carmine D.

SCF1201 Upright Bagless Vacuum Cleaner with Cyclo-Flow™ Filtration

Carmine or anyone else,

     I know I am off the topic of this Sanyo but seeing the name Filtex again on  that old  cleaner sight got me wondering what the body of the Filtex was made of. If I remember there were  two -what I like to refer to as flush screw nuts held the front and back together and the body was not metal. Kind of like formed Masonite. Haven't used that name in awhile. When we had a bad casing we had stove pipe metal made into the size needed to replace the body and used Model XXX covering to cover the outside. and put the Filtex emblem back on. Any help would be appreciated in helping me. It has been awhile since the 50's.

                                                                                                                                                                              Procare

                                                                                          

procare wrote:
Hi Procare,

I priorly owned a Filtex tank got rid of it but bought another that I have tucked away. (I'm doing a major housecleaning and will pass on the model number later.) The main body of both are made of, as you said, Masonite. Front and rear ends were cast aluminum and the bottom was steel. There was a cylindrical Filtex tank made preceding the later tanks early on that I assume was all-metal.

Later on, a company manufactured bagged central vacs under the name Filtex and used the original Filtex cast aluminum rug nozzle. I tried to track them down years ago but heard their warehouse had been burned out. If I recall correctly that was back in the 1980s.

Best,

Venson

Hello Procare, Venson:

Back in the 50's when these filtex tanks were around and popular, I'm not sure we actually used the term "masonite' for the material of the vacuums' bodies.  Instead, calling it what it was: a hard thin cardboard.  I would add too that these tanks, unlike the lux 30's, had wheels instead of runners.   WRT filtex style and design, very similar to the more popular lux 30's in vacuum and attachments.  And why not.  Lux and the 30 in particular was the leader in tanks for many many years.  Filtex was following the leader.

Carmine D.