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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Sanyo Airsis . . . .
Original Message   Sep 27, 2009 9:59 am
Hi,

Per Japan Today, Sanyo has come up with a new cyclonic model, the Sanyo Airsis, which is to be released in Japan on October 21st.

The Airsis' proprosed price is to be 115,500 yen (approximately $1,277 American). Despite some slightly radical design changes -- a hose end with dual grips and very different looking floor tool -- the price sounds a bit steep for a machine that's main claim is an upward directed exhaust stream. That's more an exercise of common sense than genius. Sanyo also says this cleaner excels because its filtration rate is 20 percent faster. Whether this implies increased airflow and/or suction, I do not know. Link follows:

http://www.japantoday.com/category/new-products/view/cyclonic-vacuum-cleaner-2

Venson
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vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
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Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . .
Reply #3   Sep 27, 2009 6:31 pm
Mm Im not sure either where Sanyo is going with its claimed upward stream of exhaust air; much prefer Sebo's K series where the air is directed through the sides unlike Miele on the top.
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . .
Reply #4   Sep 28, 2009 1:06 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Mm Im not sure either where Sanyo is going with its claimed upward stream of exhaust air; much prefer Sebo's K series where the air is directed through the sides unlike Miele on the top.

Hi,

It doesn't really matter. The idea is to divert a vacuum's air exhaust away from the floor where unswept dust may be. This was an issue CR pointed out in its ratings for years. Some of the major brands paid attention and some did not.

What's confusing is a manufacturer vying for a claim to fame by merely doing what it should be doing in the first place.

Venson
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . .
Reply #5   Sep 29, 2009 1:48 pm

While not the Sunbeam hatbox canister vacuum I had in mind, still very similar to the Sanyo Airsis.  The more things change, the more they stay the same.........or put another way:  What's old is new again.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . .
Reply #6   Sep 29, 2009 1:58 pm
While not the Sunbeam value vac canister of the 50's, a nice new Sunbeam hatbox version still.

Carmine D.
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . .
Reply #7   Sep 29, 2009 5:14 pm
CarmineD wrote:
While not the Sunbeam value vac canister of the 50's, a nice new Sunbeam hatbox version still.

Carmine D.

Hey Carmine,

I didn't download the images because I thought it might be unfair but I think this is what you're looking for. Check out the whole site, it's really something.

http://dkas1.50megs.com/Sunbeam.html

Best,

Venson
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . .
Reply #8   Sep 29, 2009 5:58 pm
Howdy to all,

The following link is a great source regarding American vacuum history. It is not not critical of the good or bad and does not elaborate on history in length as say Charlie Lester's site but it does display images plus the chronological existence of popular and commonly found vacuums in homes all across the country.

http://dkas1.50megs.com/index.html

Can't judge the present and future without a knowledge of the past.

Venson
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . .
Reply #9   Sep 29, 2009 6:59 pm
Venson wrote:
Can't judge the present and future without a knowledge of the past.

Venson



You're the man Venson.  Yes, you got it.  Didn't you own/use one of these Sunbeam gems back in the day? 

How right you are.  We have to know what came before in order to fairly judge what comes after.

Carmine D.

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Venson


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Points: 1900

Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . .
Reply #10   Sep 29, 2009 7:41 pm
CarmineD wrote:
. . . Didn't you own/use one of these Sunbeam gems back in the day? . . .

Carmine D.

Hi Carmine,

I owned a Sunbeam Courier canister and a Sunbeam stick vac with attachments. Both worked well. The Sunbeam 635 and the small, affordable all-steel Eureka canisters -- despite the exhaust placement -- were machines I always recommended to people who wanted a decent vacuum without spending a lot. Of course that was at the time that $39.95 really got you somewhere.

Venson
procare


Joined: Jul 16, 2009
Points: 192

Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . .
Reply #11   Sep 29, 2009 8:32 pm
Venson,

  Thanks for that site dkas 1.50. If you look at the Firestone , it is also called Kingston , Germatron, Saniway and Royal. Made by Douglas Manufacturing in Bronson , Michigan. Thanks again

                                                                                                Procare

                                                                                                                                    

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . .
Reply #12   Sep 30, 2009 6:52 am
Venson wrote:
Hi Carmine,

I owned a Sunbeam Courier canister and a Sunbeam stick vac with attachments. Both worked well. The Sunbeam 635 and the small, affordable all-steel Eureka canisters -- despite the exhaust placement -- were machines I always recommended to people who wanted a decent vacuum without spending a lot. Of course that was at the time that $39.95 really got you somewhere.

Venson


Hi Venson:

I recall the Sunbeam Courier [suitcase] well and the all steel Eurekas and HOOVER celebrities.  What a difference in prices: $40-$50 versus $1000.  The increase in inflation is surely offset by the decrease in material costs for the lack of metal.  So what accounts for the higher vacuum prices?  Technology??  

I read recently that the next highest cost for the metal materials that go into washers/driers by Whirlpool is distribution cost.  Probably true for other products too.  Another reason to buy American made.

Carmine D.

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