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| Venson 
     
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	|  | Sanyo Airsis . . . . Original Message   Sep 27, 2009 5:59 am
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Hi, Per Japan Today, Sanyo has come up with a new cyclonic model, the Sanyo Airsis, which is to be released in Japan on October 21st.  The Airsis' proprosed price is to be 115,500 yen (approximately $1,277 American).  Despite some slightly radical design changes -- a hose end with dual grips and very different looking floor tool -- the price sounds a bit steep for a machine that's main claim is an upward directed exhaust stream.  That's more an exercise of common sense than genius.  Sanyo also says this cleaner excels because its filtration rate is 20 percent faster.  Whether this implies increased airflow and/or suction, I do not know.  Link follows: http://www.japantoday.com/category/new-products/view/cyclonic-vacuum-cleaner-2 Venson 
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| Venson 
     
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	|  | Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . . Reply #7   Sep 29, 2009 1:14 pm
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 While not the Sunbeam value vac canister of the 50's, a nice new Sunbeam hatbox version still.
 Carmine D.
 
 Hey Carmine, I didn't download the images because I thought it might be unfair but I think this is what you're looking for.  Check out the whole site, it's really something. http://dkas1.50megs.com/Sunbeam.html Best, Venson |  
| CarmineD 
     
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	|  | Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . . Reply #9   Sep 29, 2009 2:59 pm
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 Can't judge the present and future without a knowledge of the past.
 Venson
 
 You're the man Venson.  Yes, you got it.  Didn't you own/use one of these Sunbeam gems back in the day?
 How right you are.  We have to know what came before in order to fairly judge what comes after. Carmine D. 
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| Venson 
     
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	|  | Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . . Reply #10   Sep 29, 2009 3:41 pm
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 . . . Didn't you own/use one of these Sunbeam gems back in the day? . . .
 Carmine D.
 
 Hi Carmine, I owned a Sunbeam Courier canister and a Sunbeam stick vac with attachments.  Both worked well.  The Sunbeam 635 and the small, affordable all-steel Eureka canisters -- despite the exhaust placement -- were machines I always recommended to people who wanted a decent vacuum without spending a lot.  Of course that was at the time that $39.95 really got you somewhere. Venson |  
| procare 
    
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	|  | Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . . Reply #11   Sep 29, 2009 4:32 pm
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Venson,   Thanks for that site dkas 1.50. If you look at the Firestone , it is also called Kingston , Germatron, Saniway and Royal. Made by Douglas Manufacturing in Bronson , Michigan. Thanks again                                                                                                  Procare                                                                                                                                      |  
| CarmineD 
     
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	|  | Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . . Reply #12   Sep 30, 2009 2:52 am
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 Hi Carmine,
 I owned a Sunbeam Courier canister and a Sunbeam stick vac with attachments. Both worked well. The Sunbeam 635 and the small, affordable all-steel Eureka canisters -- despite the exhaust placement -- were machines I always recommended to people who wanted a decent vacuum without spending a lot. Of course that was at the time that $39.95 really got you somewhere.
 
 Venson
 Hi Venson:
 I recall the Sunbeam Courier [suitcase] well and the all steel Eurekas and HOOVER celebrities.  What a difference in prices: $40-$50 versus $1000.  The increase in inflation is surely offset by the decrease in material costs for the lack of metal.  So what accounts for the higher vacuum prices?  Technology??   I read recently that the next highest cost for the metal materials that go into washers/driers by Whirlpool is distribution cost.  Probably true for other products too.  Another reason to buy American made. Carmine D. |  
| CarmineD 
     
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	|  | Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . . Reply #13   Sep 30, 2009 2:55 am
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 Venson,   Thanks for that site dkas 1.50. If you look at the Firestone , it is also called Kingston , Germatron, Saniway and Royal. Made by Douglas Manufacturing in Bronson , Michigan. Thanks again                                                                                                  Procare                                                                                                                                     
 Hello Procare:
 I recall the Kingston tanks and canns.  The metal on the tanks was the thickness of bank vaults.  You could drop the Kingston tank off a 2 story house, and plug it in and use it without any problems.  Of course, you'd have to fix the 2 foot hole that the vacuum made in the concrete when it landed/hit. Carmine D. |  
| Venson 
     
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	|  | Re: Sanyo Airsis . . . . Reply #14   Sep 30, 2009 6:36 am
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 Venson,</p><p>  Thanks for that site dkas 1.50. If you look at the Firestone , it is also called Kingston , Germatron, Saniway and Royal. Made by Douglas Manufacturing in Bronson , Michigan. Thanks again </p><p>                                                                                                Procare</p><p>                                                                                                                                    
 Hi procare, Thank you.   You're right.   By the way, do you know the source of the Bee-Vac tank?   It sold under many names including Kenmore.   I have a Saniway canister and have long been wanting to get my hands on the wheeled Kingston tank-type. Best, Venson |  |  |