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DysonInventsBig


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Original Message   Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Reply #601   Aug 19, 2009 9:13 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello M00seUK:

Until the product is sold and I see that it relates to vacuums/floorcare, I for one have no interest in knowing.  Until then, dyson's plans/intentions are all speculation to titilate his fans here free of charge.   

Carmine D.



If you can find reason to criticize it you will become interested in it.  Even if it is put in a sail boat and not a floor care product.

You spent weeks on the talking about the air blade although it is not related to floor care.  What relation is there between nitrogen in tires and floor care?

Maybe DIB will share his medications with you.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #602   Aug 20, 2009 6:47 am
Hello HS: 

I doubt seriously there are 601 posts and/or a dedicated thread just on nitrogen use in tires here, like there are for so many non-vacuum related dyson stuff.  Maybe you need some meds yourself and/or assistance with reading and math. 

I suspect the nitro discussion which you embellished by your own antagonistic responses was related to a COSTCO visit of mine and post about the HOOVER WT SP Anniversary edition.  As I recall COSTCO featured the model for $149 for the 2008 Christmas holidays. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Reply #603   Aug 20, 2009 6:54 am
BTW, HS a poster here subsequently queried about the HOOVER WT SP at COSTCO for $149 vice the SEARS Progressive for $250.  I believe in that post, while advising him to buy the HOOVER, I also opined that this HOOVER model may well detrone the SEARS from the number one spot in Consumer Reports.  I was subsequently proved right.    I know you remember this very well, but others may not. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


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Reply #604   Aug 21, 2009 10:22 pm
Dyson registered a Trademark for the name V-Ball.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4001:r9fm0b.2.1
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DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson Air Multiplier - New product? AM01?
Reply #605   Aug 21, 2009 10:30 pm
M00seUK wrote:
Dyson recently (June 2009) filed a trade mark for a 'Dyson Air Multiplier'. This may or may not be related to the vacuum cleaners, but I think it's the first of a new 'personal cooling' product range, that might be launched in the near future.

As the Dyson Digital motor lead to the development of the AirBlade hand drier, it looks like the 'Air Multiplier' is a further development of the idea.

Here's a patent filing from March 2009:-
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=WO&NR=2009030881A1&KC=A1&FT=D&date=20090312&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

It describes a 'bladeless' fan design, by the use of a circular nozzle and ideally, powered by a brushless DC motor.

Advantages are described as reduced noise, uniform air distribution and smaller profile. I would suspect that it would initially, at least, sell as a small desk fan. I'd guess there'd be no hurry to get a product like this out on to the Christmas market as the majority of homes don't require cooling aids for that time of year!


Moose,

One of the fellas at Pocket-lint.com liked your post so much he carried your story and linked back to this site.  People are interested in "things Dyson."
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news.phtml/26441/dyson-patents-bladeless-desk-fan.phtml


DIB
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CarmineD


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Reply #606   Aug 22, 2009 6:40 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Dyson registered a Trademark for the name V-Ball.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4001:r9fm0b.2.1



Nothing there DIB, the page expired.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson Air Multiplier - New product? AM01?
Reply #607   Aug 22, 2009 6:47 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Moose,

One of the fellas at Pocket-lint.com liked your post so much he carried your story and linked back to this site.  People are interested in "things Dyson."
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news.phtml/26441/dyson-patents-bladeless-desk-fan.phtml


DIB


The poster, Stuart Miles, claims dyson is launching a bladeless cooling desk fan, as M00seUK initially stated.  It's not a vacuum for the pocket lint that's now gathering in your pockets where the money use to be before you bought all things dyson.  Mr. Miles posted August 19, about 10 hours, more or less, after M00seUK posted here.  He took my advice about finding a better on-line place to post than a vacuum Forum.  Pocket-lint is a "gadgets" news blog.  There are no follow up comments to Miles' post on-line.  Not even by DIB!  Strange?  Well, there are 2 tweets!  And of the approximately 3200 posts on Pocket-lint, 22 are related to dyson.  Big!  Pocket-lint is an intriguing name.  Wonder how it originated? 

Carmine D.

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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Reply #608   Aug 22, 2009 8:27 am
Seeing is believing. In this case, it is claimed that the idea comes by way of technology already used by Dyson to make vacuums and hand dryers. What is it? Does this mean that current Dyson vacuums and the Air Blade employ modified fans unlike the usual found in in other machines? I haven't heard mention to the effect by any of the repair people who post here -- so show me. I'd be far more satisfied seeing a prototype than a merely patent sketch and/or hearing a real description of how its development was wrought from some ingenious device already in use.

The blade(s) of a vacuum fan or any kind of fan for that matter, once set in motion, fling away air molecules. Outside pressure forces other air molecules to rush in to take up the space of the molecules flung away. Speedy repetitions of the same produce a stream of air by way of the partial vacuum brought about. Put all this in a container that can focus the direction of incoming and outgoing air and you got the beginnings of a vacuum cleaner or a hand dryer.

The diagram as provided depicts little. There needs to be a far more clear, concise explanation of this so-called bladeless fan to make the story at least plausible enough to allow serious discussion.

I could claim I am inventing a vacuum cleaner you never have to empty that nukes sweepings with lasers and absorbs the resulting vapors in charcoal-embedded filtering medium but wouldn't I still have to do more than draw a picture or two. I'd have to present facts AND an explanation as to how it works to make it real to prompt discussion by others and not have it appear no more than a figment of my mental meanderings.

Venson
CarmineD


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Points: 5894


Reply #609   Aug 22, 2009 8:37 am
Recall Venson that 2 years ago, this Forum was abuzz with dyson's latest soon to launched: A waterless dish washer uses hydrogen peroxide.  2 years ago.  Where is it?  Only takes 9 months to have a baby.  475 engineers and nothing to show.

Carmine D.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900


Reply #610   Aug 22, 2009 11:14 am
CarmineD wrote:
. . . Only takes 9 months to have a baby.

Well, giving them the benefit of the doubt, it can take twelve months -- if you're an elephant.

What got me was the opening paragraph: "Dyson could be about to launch a bladeless desk fan to keep you cool based on technology it has previously used in its hand driers and vacuum cleaners."

Anybody COULD be doing anything so why waste my time. Keeping your name out there is a big thing in business but being advised, hypothesis to hypothesis, about what might be is a frivolous use of readers' time and not necessarily a builder of confidence in consumers. Let 'em come back when they've got something to show.

Venson
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