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(Below: Oreck 1979 to 2008)

  < yr. 1979  < yr. 5/2008

CarmineD wrote:

If you do not report income earnings how do you contribute to SS?  Most illegals are not contributing to our financial security. Diverse is not always illegal.

Good question HS! 

Unfortunately many "illegals" are contributing but they don't have accurate/correct social security numbers [so they can't be tracked], hence the reason they are unkindly called "illegal."  But their employers are required by law to withhold social security from their wages and remit to the Government, under penalty of law for not doing so.  Hence, the reason they will never collect any of it themselves.

True, diverse doesn't mean illegal.  But....'illegal' as used by most generally means diverse.  If you read the links DIB provided about the employees in your neck of the woods, they don't speak English as a first language.  I'd say that makes them diverse.

Carmine D 

HARDSELL wrote:
Hi Hardsell,

What about indirect contribution?  Even if not performing work in a government sanctioned fashion, by way of earned American dollars, alien laborers return money, including sales tax, for food, lodging and clothing to the U.S. communities they work or reside in. 

I don't imagine that they anticipate receiving social security benefits.  Nonetheless, their local daily spending will in some way support it for someone else.  As well, I've seen natural-born Americans who've barely hit a lick at a snake their whole lives get SSi benefits PLUS subsidies if the SSI rate they received was considered to low by way of the cost of living standard.

Venson

> It is interesting that the federal government provides a
> single refugee with a monthly allowance of $1,890.00
> and each can also get an additional $580.00 in social assistance for a total
of$2,470.00 .
>
> This compares very well to a single pensioner who after contributing to the
growth and development of America for 40 to 50 years can only receive a monthly
maximum of $1,012.00 in old age pension and Guaranteed Income Supplemen

Can anyone verify if this is true?

HS:

The $1012 for max monthly social security payout is dated.  At a minimum it does not reflect the 5.7 increase granted in January 2009 for all recipients.  And I'd suggest the base amount is too low now too.  What is your source and date?

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:
Hi Hardsell,

I looked and came up with the following

http://www.governmentgrantsearch.com/posts/view/refugee-and-entrant-resettlement-opportunity

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_the_us_pay_1800_a_month.html

http://www.federalgrantswire.com/federal-grants-q-t.html

The last of the above lot has an entry regarding funds for refugee assistance which states that such assistance only lasts for eight months.  So the offering of assistance may well be only temporary.

Best,

Venson

Venson wrote:

Hi Venson:

Like the payments for the Federal Witness Protection Program and Unemployment Benefits:  They don't keep coming until you die and then pay a Death Benefit [for burial], like Social Security.  Thanks for the links.

Carmine D.